Canalas and Young are betas.

[CPcavedweller]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

One of the great all-time poo takes. Watching Cam succeed had to have been super painful for you. You're probably a happier "Panthers fan" watching us suck than you were sulking while Cam won us games.

Dude I have a Cam jersey and was a massive Cam fan. I literally got in a fight at the Saints NFCS Championship game in 2013 because people behind me were yelling “Sir Cameron Newton: Leader of Men, Lover of Puppies...Esquire”. 
 

You cannot watch Josh Allen and tell me that Cam ever approached anything close to what you see from him on a consistent basis. Cam did it for one season and Allen has done it now for four. 
 

Cam was set in his ways. As much as I liked watching him, it was painfully obvious that he wasn’t improving and, if anything, continuously regressed following his peak in 2015. 
 

I can be a fan and also recognize a persons shortcomings. Cam was always at the top and didn’t have to put in the same amount of work as a lesser, physically talented person has to put it. He got comfortable and he fell. That mountain top is sharp and you either keep building or you teeter and fall. 
 

Sure, he was an alpha, but what did that lead to? One great year. Aside from that, he was average at best. 

[WarPanthers89]

Rhule, Frank, Dave…. Do any of them seem like coaches who can be a hard ass and fire the team up? It’s a lot more important than you think. Same with the QB role

[LinvilleGorge]

13 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Dude I have a Cam jersey and was a massive Cam fan. I literally got in a fight at the Saints NFCS Championship game in 2013 because people behind me were yelling “Sir Cameron Newton: Leader of Men, Lover of Puppies...Esquire”. 
 

You cannot watch Josh Allen and tell me that Cam ever approached anything close to what you see from him on a consistent basis. Cam did it for one season and Allen has done it now for four. 
 

Cam was set in his ways. As much as I liked watching him, it was painfully obvious that he wasn’t improving and, if anything, continuously regressed following his peak in 2015. 
 

I can be a fan and also recognize a persons shortcomings. Cam was always at the top and didn’t have to put in the same amount of work as a lesser, physically talented person has to put it. He got comfortable and he fell. That mountain top is sharp and you either keep building or you teeter and fall. 
 

Sure, he was an alpha, but what did that lead to? One great year. Aside from that, he was average at best. 

You know, it's actually possible to appreciate Josh Allen without shitting on our QB GOAT. I mean, it's not even difficult. I sure wish our organization had built Cam an OL and put receivers around him like the Bills smartly did with Allen so that we could've seen what prime Cam could've done with a good offensive unit around him and I wish that the Panthers had an OC that wouldn't just rely on Cam's elite physical tools to carry his offense but alas...

[Panthers Fan 69]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Talking about "alpha" and "beta" stuff is super small energy.

In all fairness, so is what we saw on the field again yesterday. It matters. 

[OneBadCat]

1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

Cam was a poor man’s Josh Allen, and it wasn’t particularly close between them. He was a guy with all of the talent in the world that didn’t want to put in the work or take his coaching which is why he never had sustained success. 
 

 

F-150 Twin Turbo Super Duty right here

[SOJA]

didn't the MISC body building forum get shut down?

[Khyber53]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

for all the "dawg" talk....Panthers have essentially no attitude on the entire roster. 

I mean, you can maybe make the Horn argument because of his play style but even Horn comes off as a pretty dang nice dude. 

The ending of the Ron/Cam era.....ended the dawgs  in Carolina.   Think Rhule couldn't handle a locker room if they existed.  And we have never added them back once that house cleaning occurred. 

Folks really got pissed when I said Tepper would only hire coaches that didn't intimidate him.

I still stand by my initial assessment.

And look where that has gotten us.

[PleaseCutStewart]

1 hour ago, X-Clown said:

Probably one of those "Derek Anderson just throws a better ball" types

He was probably also the guy that said "give Pickles one more year and we will be Superb Owl winners"

[Panthers Fan 69]

1 minute ago, Khyber53 said:

Folks really got pissed when I said Tepper would only hire coaches that didn't intimidate him.

I still stand by my initial assessment.

And look where that has gotten us.

I 100% agree with you! Canalas and Young are soft as baby poo

[PantherChris]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You would've thought Cam trashing his throwing shoulder derailing his career while he still retained elite athleticism and vastly improved his completion percentage while being unable to push the ball down the field anymore would've quieted some of the haters down, but nope. They already had their narrative and they're sticking to it 

Had he corrected his mechanics he would still be playing.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Had he corrected his mechanics he would still be playing.

No he wouldn't. His shoulder is shot.

[Paa Langfart]

23 minutes ago, SOJA said:

didn't the MISC body building forum get shut down?

You gotta laugh at this place and the reactions/ takes of some of the forumites.  Its the only reason I come here myself.  It sure isnt to celebrate the Panthers.

[Gapanthersfan]

14 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Folks really got pissed when I said Tepper would only hire coaches that didn't intimidate him.

I still stand by my initial assessment.

And look where that has gotten us.

Not everybody.

After Wilks was given the thanks but no thanks treatment…. I knew. He was the perfect ‘Bridge’ coach to Rebuild an identity and culture…. And it was well on its way. Why burn that down? Why? Because Wilks had no solution for the Brady to Evans connection with the playoffs on the line? What a joke. 

Tepp knew he had no chance at manipulating Steve. 

[CPcavedweller]

41 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

He was probably also the guy that said "give Pickles one more year and we will be Superb Owl winners"

Didn’t say any of that. I was all in on Cam, hence my picture on here. 
 

If one of you could detail one facet of the game that Cam was better at than Josh Allen, I’m all ears. Just one. 
 

I’ll wait.