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Bryce Young Is a Symptom, Not the Disease

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ThPantherFan Grand Master

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12 hours ago, NAS said:

The bottom line is this: the dysfunction in Carolina didn’t start with Bryce Young, and it sure hasn’t ended with him. This is a franchise problem — years of poor drafting, weak scouting, short-sighted trades, and constant turnover. The common denominator through all of it? David Tepper. Until the culture, patience, and football operations at the top change, it won’t matter who the quarterback is.

You make a very valid point.  Only way Tepper is fired if no one goes to the game.  Then he will sell it.

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Regardless of the trade and where he was picked, Bryce actively created deception. He wore a hoodie to the combine and was 15 lbs heavier because he packed on water weight because he didnt weigh near 200 lbs. He didn't participate in drills in a wide open 4 way, really 3, QB bid. Then there was all this hype over the S2 test that he had been practicing that we've never heard about in the draft process since. Does anyone think it was an accident Stroud's score on the S2 was released? Stroud said forget the score, watch his tape. Wonder why. There was a whole bunch of shady poo going on surrounding Bryce pre draft, and I for one, find it all a little too convenient. 

Just my opinion, but he was a used car salesman that used some armor all and a wash n wax and maybe a set of white walls then schmoozed his way at dinner with Dave and Nicole and sold them that he was a super savant. 

There was a whole lot of BS swirling around the BY hype train and he was a full fledged participant. Frank didn't want Bryce, he wanted Stroud. A new head coach does not pick a QB he has to go design a brand new offense around unless that guy is a generationaltalent, which Bryce was most definitely not. He picks the guy that best fits what he does and that was Stroud. This was Dave and Nicole's pick and they fuged this team like they've done over and over again since they've been here. They fell for use car salesman Rhule, then used car salesman Bryce and company. And the fans got stuck with the 4 years of payments on a car less reliable than Al Bundy's Dodge. 

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i honestly think Dan Morgan is the biggest problem on this team right now & it's pretty obvious for anyone who doesn't have blinders on to see 

Dan Morgan is responsible for hiring Dave Canales & moreover without Dan Morgan then Canales is more than likely not a Panthers HC right now. Dan Morgan is responsible for not having the ability to truly evaluate Bryce Young after 2 seasons  & recongize the need to bring in an actual plan B at Qb .Dan Morgan has wasted multiple high round picks in the draft on busts or injured players. Dan Morgan was assistant GM to Scott Fitterer. Dan Morgan gutted the defense of talent in 24' for money  which he in turn spent in large part  on the oLine & by doing so it played a major factor in the Panthers having the worse defense in NFL history last season / 24'  . Dan Morgan currently has the least talented team in the NFL  25'

i could go on & oʻj but simply put Dan Morgan is incompetent at his job 

& let me say this about  Dan Morgan he is a super  nice guy & I do not mean this in any type of mean way whatsoever  or to hurt anyone's feelings .it's just simply put not the right job for Dan Morgan...just saying 

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At this point, it is obvious

The David Tepper owned Panthers are like asking an 8 year old what they want to be when they grow up

The answer changes monthly 

That’s fine for an 8 year old but not a  10 billion $$ franchise

the result is most probably the worst team in the nfl  

I’ve  started watching other teams for the enjoyment of the pro game 

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3 minutes ago, bandu said:

i honestly think Dan Morgan is the biggest problem on this team right now & it's pretty obvious for anyone who doesn't have blinders on to see 

Dan Morgan is responsible for hiring Dave Canales & moreover without Dan Morgan then Canales is more than likely not a Panthers HC right now. Dan Morgan is responsible for not having the ability to truly evaluate Bryce Young after 2 seasons  & recongize the need to bring in an actual plan B at Qb .Dan Morgan has wasted multiple high round picks in the draft on busts or injured players. Dan Morgan was assistant GM to Scott Fitterer. Dan Morgan gutted the defense of talent in 24' for money  which he in turn spent in large part  on the oLine & by doing so it played a major factor in the Panthers having the worse defense in NFL history last season / 24'  . Dan Morgan currently has the least talented team in the NFL  25'

i could go on & oʻj but simply put Dan Morgan is incompetent at his job 

& let me say this about  Dan Morgan he is a super  nice guy & I do not mean this in any type of mean way whatsoever  or to hurt anyone's feelings .it's just simply put not the right job for Dan Morgan...just saying 

Im not a Morgan fan either, but Im still not 100% convinced that BY and the lack of competition isn't a Tepper thing vs a Dan thing which means it's still a Dan problem. We need to upgrade our backup. Dalton was re-signed to keep Bryce comfortable, not compete for a starting job. Bryce was Tepper's draft choice through yes man Fittershits, not Reich's. I could very well be wrong, but it would appear that there' pressure coming from above Dan to give as much leash to Bryce as possible and not challenge him at all. Either he rises or he falls. Good in theory, terrible for an NFL team on an 8 year poo the bed streak. 

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