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https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1975999485319827749?t=KpGFBSxTy4lmNcIHM3CdiQ&s=09

 

highest comp % on passes 10+ air yards 

68.8% - Drake Maye 👀
67.3% - Sam Darnold
66.7% - J.J. McCarthy
61.9% - Lamar Jackson
60.0% - Marcus Mariota
59.6% - Daniel Jones
59.1% - Brock Purdy
58.8% - Matthew Stafford
55.3% - Jared Goff
54.5% - Cooper Rush
54.5% - Joe Burrow
53.3% - Dak Prescott
52.7% - Josh Allen
52.4% - Jordan Love
51.4% - Mac Jones
51.3% - Carson Wentz
51.2% - C.J. Stroud
50.0% - Tua Tagovailoa
48.3% - Justin Fields
48.2% - Justin Herbert
46.7% - Caleb Williams
45.2% - Russell Wilson
45.1% - Patrick Mahomes
44.4% - Tyrod Taylor
44.2% - Kyler Murray
43.3% - Baker Mayfield
43.2% - Jayden Daniels
42.9% - Spencer Rattler
42.6% - Geno Smith
42.3% - Aaron Rodgers
41.8% - Trevor Lawrence
41.0% - Jake Browning
38.9% - Jaxson Dart
37.8% - Michael Penix Jr.
37.0% - Bo Nix
35.8% - Joe Flacco
35.1% - Jalen Hurts
34.6% - Cam Ward
34.0% - Bryce Young
30.0% - Dillon Gabriel

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14 minutes ago, Cavscout said:

https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1975999485319827749?t=KpGFBSxTy4lmNcIHM3CdiQ&s=09

 

highest comp % on passes 10+ air yards 

68.8% - Drake Maye 👀
67.3% - Sam Darnold
66.7% - J.J. McCarthy
61.9% - Lamar Jackson
60.0% - Marcus Mariota
59.6% - Daniel Jones
59.1% - Brock Purdy
58.8% - Matthew Stafford
55.3% - Jared Goff
54.5% - Cooper Rush
54.5% - Joe Burrow
53.3% - Dak Prescott
52.7% - Josh Allen
52.4% - Jordan Love
51.4% - Mac Jones
51.3% - Carson Wentz
51.2% - C.J. Stroud
50.0% - Tua Tagovailoa
48.3% - Justin Fields
48.2% - Justin Herbert
46.7% - Caleb Williams
45.2% - Russell Wilson
45.1% - Patrick Mahomes
44.4% - Tyrod Taylor
44.2% - Kyler Murray
43.3% - Baker Mayfield
43.2% - Jayden Daniels
42.9% - Spencer Rattler
42.6% - Geno Smith
42.3% - Aaron Rodgers
41.8% - Trevor Lawrence
41.0% - Jake Browning
38.9% - Jaxson Dart
37.8% - Michael Penix Jr.
37.0% - Bo Nix
35.8% - Joe Flacco
35.1% - Jalen Hurts
34.6% - Cam Ward
34.0% - Bryce Young
30.0% - Dillon Gabriel

Oh boy people will still be defending him

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29 minutes ago, Cavscout said:

https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1975999485319827749?t=KpGFBSxTy4lmNcIHM3CdiQ&s=09

 

highest comp % on passes 10+ air yards 

68.8% - Drake Maye 👀
67.3% - Sam Darnold
66.7% - J.J. McCarthy
61.9% - Lamar Jackson
60.0% - Marcus Mariota
59.6% - Daniel Jones
59.1% - Brock Purdy
58.8% - Matthew Stafford
55.3% - Jared Goff
54.5% - Cooper Rush
54.5% - Joe Burrow
53.3% - Dak Prescott
52.7% - Josh Allen
52.4% - Jordan Love
51.4% - Mac Jones
51.3% - Carson Wentz
51.2% - C.J. Stroud
50.0% - Tua Tagovailoa
48.3% - Justin Fields
48.2% - Justin Herbert
46.7% - Caleb Williams
45.2% - Russell Wilson
45.1% - Patrick Mahomes
44.4% - Tyrod Taylor
44.2% - Kyler Murray
43.3% - Baker Mayfield
43.2% - Jayden Daniels
42.9% - Spencer Rattler
42.6% - Geno Smith
42.3% - Aaron Rodgers
41.8% - Trevor Lawrence
41.0% - Jake Browning
38.9% - Jaxson Dart
37.8% - Michael Penix Jr.
37.0% - Bo Nix
35.8% - Joe Flacco
35.1% - Jalen Hurts
34.6% - Cam Ward
34.0% - Bryce Young
30.0% - Dillon Gabriel

Gotta admit, I didnt know Cooper Rush was still in the league. 

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23 minutes ago, Cavscout said:

https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1975999485319827749?t=KpGFBSxTy4lmNcIHM3CdiQ&s=09

 

highest comp % on passes 10+ air yards 

68.8% - Drake Maye 👀
67.3% - Sam Darnold
66.7% - J.J. McCarthy
61.9% - Lamar Jackson
60.0% - Marcus Mariota
59.6% - Daniel Jones
59.1% - Brock Purdy
58.8% - Matthew Stafford
55.3% - Jared Goff
54.5% - Cooper Rush
54.5% - Joe Burrow
53.3% - Dak Prescott
52.7% - Josh Allen
52.4% - Jordan Love
51.4% - Mac Jones
51.3% - Carson Wentz
51.2% - C.J. Stroud
50.0% - Tua Tagovailoa
48.3% - Justin Fields
48.2% - Justin Herbert
46.7% - Caleb Williams
45.2% - Russell Wilson
45.1% - Patrick Mahomes
44.4% - Tyrod Taylor
44.2% - Kyler Murray
43.3% - Baker Mayfield
43.2% - Jayden Daniels
42.9% - Spencer Rattler
42.6% - Geno Smith
42.3% - Aaron Rodgers
41.8% - Trevor Lawrence
41.0% - Jake Browning
38.9% - Jaxson Dart
37.8% - Michael Penix Jr.
37.0% - Bo Nix
35.8% - Joe Flacco
35.1% - Jalen Hurts
34.6% - Cam Ward
34.0% - Bryce Young
30.0% - Dillon Gabriel

When you look at this and line it up with his current YPA based on a comparable number of attempts only rookie Cam Ward and 40 year old Joe Flacco are in his company.

For all the investments we've made in the offense this is just pitiful.

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On 10/6/2025 at 10:17 PM, ProcessBlue2 said:

If he doesn’t poo his pants and drop the ball like a terrified worm or throw a horrible ball across the middle a few plays later that is intercepted. He doesn’t have to make those “clutch” throws at the end of the game. 
 

Should have beat the dolphins by 2 TDs but instead the whole team was helping him clean his own mess up. He’s the reason we lost to Arizona. Everyone praised his 2nd half but failed to realize all of his turnovers that got us behind in the first place.

So yeah, if he had not poo the bed in the first quarter, we wouldn’t have been reliant on those throws because we would have been running the clock out the entire 4th quarter.

I mean if Rico Dowdle runs for 200+ yards and our D holds the opponent to less than 20 yards rushing....he might not need to make "clutch throws".  But that also isn't' likely to ever happen again.....ever in his career.  

every Panther win thus far was pretty much been an anomaly that went our way that can't be replicated most Sundays.  Career worst QB implosion type play or mindboggling rushing playing out on both ends. 

 

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1 hour ago, Cavscout said:

https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1975999485319827749?t=KpGFBSxTy4lmNcIHM3CdiQ&s=09

 

highest comp % on passes 10+ air yards 

68.8% - Drake Maye 👀
67.3% - Sam Darnold
66.7% - J.J. McCarthy
61.9% - Lamar Jackson
60.0% - Marcus Mariota
59.6% - Daniel Jones
59.1% - Brock Purdy
58.8% - Matthew Stafford
55.3% - Jared Goff
54.5% - Cooper Rush
54.5% - Joe Burrow
53.3% - Dak Prescott
52.7% - Josh Allen
52.4% - Jordan Love
51.4% - Mac Jones
51.3% - Carson Wentz
51.2% - C.J. Stroud
50.0% - Tua Tagovailoa
48.3% - Justin Fields
48.2% - Justin Herbert
46.7% - Caleb Williams
45.2% - Russell Wilson
45.1% - Patrick Mahomes
44.4% - Tyrod Taylor
44.2% - Kyler Murray
43.3% - Baker Mayfield
43.2% - Jayden Daniels
42.9% - Spencer Rattler
42.6% - Geno Smith
42.3% - Aaron Rodgers
41.8% - Trevor Lawrence
41.0% - Jake Browning
38.9% - Jaxson Dart
37.8% - Michael Penix Jr.
37.0% - Bo Nix
35.8% - Joe Flacco
35.1% - Jalen Hurts
34.6% - Cam Ward
34.0% - Bryce Young
30.0% - Dillon Gabriel

Ah, he is a deep ball master, it has to be the WRs’ fault. We need to get him better help.  

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37 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

At this point I think everyone at PFF is just trying to get on Tepper's payroll.

I thought they were already were. They literally drafted for Dan when he was doing his usual meh free agents

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Dude, back off, PFF said he ruled last year

Hey, I think we need to get into the rule book influence business. 
The receivers are so bad that maybe we could sneak a rule in so Bryce could walk down to where they are and hand it to them so they wouldn’t miss it. 

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On 10/5/2025 at 4:18 PM, AceBoogie said:

If you come away from this game thinking you need to Bench Bryce you’re crazy. He’s wildly inconsistent, but was a contributor in the winning of this game. 

He’s wildly inconsistent, turns ball over, can’t see a the field, gotta week ass arm; so roll with it?

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