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The Dowdle Mirage - Play Calling Problems

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22 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

It's not even about Bryce hitting those deeper passes, it's that we just don't even attempt them enough to make a defense alter their play calling.

Then you add in how infrequently he is able to make those passes on top of how little we attempt them, then yea, teams are never going to leave 2 high safeties against us as it's wasting a player for nothing.

Again... all why I can't stand our play calling and game plans.

Oh trust me, I hate it too but we handicapped with him at Qb. 

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Just now, CRA said:

Some of that is just BY and not Dave.  You can go back to the preseason.  BY just ain’t pulling the trigger on a lot of vertical and big plays even if it’s in the call with the coverage.  His arm is weak and his balls are often bad when he does it.

and no, I don’t enjoy it.  I don’t want a chunk pass offense featuring a middle schooler at QB that stinks at it.  Solution is to replace the QB.  Not have way more bad plays. 
 

I could and would be able to accept that if it weren't for the amount of times T-Mac has single coverage and Bryce never even looks his way after taking the snap and before throwing it.

It means the play call had him as a pure decoy and/or the 3rd or 4th read and Bryce rarely gets that deep into his progressions.  Now, is that on the play calling or Bryce making bad pre-snap reads, that we'll never know as we don't know the exact play calls.  

But my best guess is that's more on the play calls than Bryce's pre-snap reads, as how do you read T-Mac getting 1 on 1 coverage and then ever even look his way before attempting a pass to someone else?

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Also, again, I know I keep bringing it back to T-Mac, but it's because he's our only legitimate WR right now.

If Coker was healthy or XL didn't just suck, I'd be saying the same thing about their lack of usage too.  Just right now, T-Mac is the only one to complain about not getting more work, which in itself, is proof that it's a legitimate complaint, as we don't have anyone else worth arguing to get more looks right now.

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1 minute ago, Donald LaFell said:

I don’t mind if people want to point out areas for improvement but this is just negative nonsense. Enjoy the win and your Sunday! 

So our pass play calling doesn't need to be drastically improved?

I'm sorry, but it's clear as day that it does, Bryce sucking aside, the play calling has been garbage.

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4 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I get it, but again, while I know it all comes back to T-Mac because he's who I'm saying needs more targets, I'd be saying the EXACT same thing if we had the exact same player as T-Mac, but he didn't go to Arizona and I wasn't such a huge fan.

If we had a weapon like him, and then had the same game plans and play calling as we've had so far, I'd be saying the same stuff, 100% of it, not one difference.

My frustrations come out as anger about T-Mac's usage, but it's really just frustration over Canales and his crap play calling.

Brother he's already at stage of being used as a decoy, that normally takes years with flirting with 2,000 yards. He's already viewed with respect, for sure they are targeting him. Trust me he's being schemed for, on BOTH sides.

No chance I am going to defend Canales, but brother.....who do you think drafted him at #8. Dave's most coaching NFL football came from coaching WR, he 10000% wanted Tmac and you recall that was not a popular opinion outside us two. 

I think every single week he's the leader in targets, recs, rec yards. He's doing GREAT, turn the fan knob down a couple levels..

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12 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I could and would be able to accept that if it weren't for the amount of times T-Mac has single coverage and Bryce never even looks his way after taking the snap and before throwing it.

It means the play call had him as a pure decoy and/or the 3rd or 4th read and Bryce rarely gets that deep into his progressions.  Now, is that on the play calling or Bryce making bad pre-snap reads, that we'll never know as we don't know the exact play calls.  

But my best guess is that's more on the play calls than Bryce's pre-snap reads, as how do you read T-Mac getting 1 on 1 coverage and then ever even look his way before attempting a pass to someone else?

BY knows the playcall and he knows he doesn’t want to throw those balls.  Has Bruce ever thrown TMac a good vertical ball? Not talking about a deep post.   Has ever thrown a good vertical ball to any WR in his career? He sucks at it.   He also doesn’t have the arm for a lot of the comeback stuff as well on the outside.  The playcalls is going to make stuff a no go for BY….because he knows if his setup isn’t perfect the throw will be horrific 

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