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Bryce Young - High Ankle Sprain, out minimum 1 week


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Just now, kungfoodude said:

Yeah but that's also a fan centric mindset. The team has a better idea of what they have because they literally watch them in practices every single week. Not a 1 to 1 scenario, obviously, but THEY are much more aware of the overall capabilities than we are.

How can you think this after the last two offseasons of joint practices being nothing but bong smoke?

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I'm just afraid that if we take a slide as the schedule gets tougher and the offense continues to look anemic that it's going to lead to another Tepper reset and nothing about that should excite Panthers fans who've already seen several of those fail spectacularly. I'm all for trying to give this current guy his best shot before we see another one of those.

I really don't think Tepper will can him even if we literally lose all the remaining games. Now, going into next year that seat might be pretty fuging toasty. I think he is pretty safe to be here opening day 2026.

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20 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Exactly. This team cannot win a shootout with the Bills. Josh will get his on our defense. We just have to limit his time on the field. That's going to rely on our run game. If Andy throws multiple picks we do not have a chance. 

The Bills are statistically worse in every way on offense to the Cowboys, and about equal to the Cowboys defense, and we just won a shootout against the Cowboys

My fear with Dalton is he is incredibly immobile in the pocket, and he cannot buy time like Bryce has to make those clutch throws. Hate on Bryce all you want, but he is pretty good at extending plays and making 4th down conversions. Andy is more “if the throw isn’t there in the first 1.5 seconds, it’s an incompletion or sack” type of QB. 

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I really don't think Tepper will can him even if we literally lose all the remaining games. Now, going into next year that seat might be pretty fuging toasty. I think he is pretty safe to be here opening day 2026.

No telling with Tepper. He's had a very quick trigger finger at times and shown frustrating levels of patience at other times.

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2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

How can you think this after the last two offseasons of joint practices being nothing but bong smoke?

I don't think it's a real stretch what I am saying. We can certainly, and rightfully so, question the actual evaluation abilities of those in the organization but they are literally around these guys in drills, practices, etc, etc for months and months every year. It shouldn't be a surprise that they have a significantly higher idea of said players abilities just because of that level of access.

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8 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Well first things first, the 5th year option isn't something that "may" get decided this offseason, it WILL get decided this offseason because it has to, this is when they have to pick it up or not.

It's how you get into a Daniel Jones situation, where you decline the option, then he stumbles into a decent season so you extend him, just for him to revert back to his old form right away.

Bryce getting another year is far less certain than you seem to think, namely because of that 5th year option decision this offseason.

We traded the farm for the pick and then took Bryce #1 overall.  If you don't pick up the option, it's a hard sell for the players and fan base to bring him back as the starter next year.  And because of the trade and taking him #1 overall, it's equally as hard to bring in a true competition for him in camp, because if he loses, you can't keep your #1 overall pick around as a backup.

The problem is this injury now gives them the cover to make some dumb decisions

Murray. Jones, Tua etc... are perfect examples as to why you don't pay a guy like Bryce.  These guys were mediocre and those teams took a losing bet that average would turn into greatness given more time and resources.   

Bryce will get the option, I'm convinced of it. Not because he's earned it with great play, but because the team has too much invested in him to cut bait any earlier than absolutely necessary.  Short of him coming back from injury and going winless the rest of the season, Bryce will be our starting QB next fall. I don't like it either, but again, the organization is too invested to go in another direction unless the team goes into death spiral, which I don't foresee that happening.

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8 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

The Bills are statistically worse in every way on offense to the Cowboys, and about equal to the Cowboys defense, and we just won a shootout against the Cowboys

My fear with Dalton is he is incredibly immobile in the pocket, and he cannot buy time like Bryce has to make those clutch throws. Hate on Bryce all you want, but he is pretty good at extending plays and making 4th down conversions. Andy is more “if the throw isn’t there in the first 1.5 seconds, it’s an incompletion or sack” type of QB. 

Alot of that improvising is because Bryce won't take what's there in the 1.5 seconds. 

I think the talent we have at WR are good enough whereas Dalton can make those first reads, now if the Oline pass protection simply falls apart that could be a problem as Dalton is a statue back there. 

But we'll see this Sunday if the passing attack looks different than what we've been seeing so far this season. 

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9 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Murray. Jones, Tua etc... are perfect examples as to why you don't pay a guy like Bryce.  These guys were mediocre and those teams took a losing bet that average would turn into greatness given more time and resources.   

Bryce will get the option, I'm convinced of it. Not because he's earned it with great play, but because the team has too much invested in him to cut bait any earlier than absolutely necessary.  Short of him coming back from injury and going winless the rest of the season, Bryce will be our starting QB next fall. I don't like it either, but again, the organization is too invested to go in another direction unless the team goes into death spiral, which I don't foresee that happening.

Bryce hasn't done a single thing to prove he deserves to have his option picked up.  I'd have less of an issue with us declining the option and bringing him back as the starter next year than I would have us picking up that option, as that means he's on our cap books for the next 2 years instead of 1, even if he's cut before year 5.

Tua threw for 3,500 yards with a 25-8 TD-INT ratio in just 13 starts the year before they picked up his option, and then threw for over 4,600 yards before they gave him his extension.

Kyler threw for 3,722, 3,971, and 3,787 in 16, 16, and 14 games (while rushing for 544, 819, and 423 in those seasons) before they picked up his option and then signed him to an extension before year 4.

Jones threw for 3,200 yards with a 3-1 TD-INT ratio with another 700 yards and 7 TDs rushing in year 4 before they signed him to his extension.

Bryce has thrown for 2,877 and 2,400 yards in 16 and 12 starts his two seasons, while being on pace for 3,128 yards in a 17 game season so far this year.

The closest comparison to any of them was Jones, who while he's turned it around this year, is someone I think everyone can agree was not a player who deserved that extension after that season.

If people think those other QB's having their options picked up and/or given extensions were a mistake, in what world can you look at what Bryce has done and make any rational argument for him even being brought back as our starter next year, let alone also picking up his option that would cost us about $27 million fully guaranteed.

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