I'm All In On Drafting a QB in Round 1

[45catfan]

8 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

For you guys that want a vet FA

 

WOOF

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2026/position/qb

I's still down for kicking the tires on Trey Lance.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, 45catfan said:

So we cut him if we don't give him the option?  I'm pretty sure there are players who didn't get the 5th-year option that played year four of their rookie contracts with their draft team.

the only qb I know of is Danny d, and that was a spectacular failure for the Giants.  You pretty much know what you have at the end of year 3

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

I didn't say do nothing if we don't draft one in the 1st and I"m not counting on a FA to magically become a franchise QB.

But signing a FA to be our starter for the year and then re-address the next offseason would be FAR better than reaching on the wrong QB in the 1st this offseason.

Feeling we HAVE to find our long term solution just because we need a new QB is how we got into this mess.  We thought Two Gloves would be at worst an average level QB for a few years, that didn't happen, so we went out and traded for Darnold.  That didn't work so we went out and traded for Baker, that didn't work so we went out and traded up to get Bryce.

Our last 4 QB moves were all trying to force a solution, none of them worked out, and we're still trying to find Cam's replacement all these years later.  We'd just have been better off spending a year or two building up the rest of the team and going year to year on FA QB's while doing so.  I get it, it will be frustrating to deal with, but then when you find that actual long term solution, they plug right into an already built out roster and you're ready to contend immediately.

You're not going to find a better starter in FA than Young. Its that simple. You can bring in another reject for "competition" if it makes you feel better but the truth is Young will be starting here next season barring another injury. 

[t96]

52 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

We don't have great young talent at WR and TE. We have young potential at WR and TE. They are NOT great - yet.

Tet is already great. Coker is at least a solid 3rd option, possibly more (hard to evaluate without a QB to get him the damn ball though). TE and Legette suck, rest of the WR depth sucks too. But more importantly for a young QB our OL when healthy is great. This is a pretty good situation for a young QB to come into and develop. Well, except for Canales and his mindboggling playcalling and playing time decisions.

[LinvilleGorge]

Yeah, it's never a good plan to go all in on doing a specific thing. Tepper was hell bent on a 1st round QB when we traded up to #1 for Bryce. The football staff correctly surmised that sitting at #9 was going to be too low in the draft order to land any of the 1st round QBs with three QBs ending up going in the top 4 picks. Being hell bent on taking a QB high in the 1st meant we were forced into an insanely expensive trade up and that has played a huge role in getting us into the mess where we currently reside.

Just add a solid journeyman vet to legitimately compete with Bryce next year and then let the chips fall where they may in the draft.

[SmokinwithWilly]

16 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

It's a hell of a lot longer than that when you refuse to give up on a lost cause too.

I hate to give credit where it's due.But arizona took one season of josh rosen and said, nope, he's out of here

[tukafan21]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You're not going to find a better starter in FA than Young. Its that simple. You can bring in another reject for "competition" if it makes you feel better but the truth is Young will be starting here next season barring another injury. 

Keeping Young would be worst than bringing in someone who isn't even as good as him.

Once a 1st overall pick has proven to not be the guy, keeping him around is just asking for trouble, more so than going for a re-set.  Especially as it would mean picking up his 5th year, which in turn means he's probably here for 2 more years.

Sometimes you have to take 1 step backwards to then be able to take 2 steps forward, rather than just staying stuck in the mud.

[45catfan]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

the only qb I know of is Danny d, and that was a spectacular failure for the Giants.  You pretty much know what you have at the end of year 3

I know it's rare, especially for QBs, but I think Canales and Morgan know he's not the QB1 to take this team to the next level.  Don't be shocked if they decline the 5th-year option. Moreover, if one or both are gone, the odds increase tremendously as a new coach and/or GM have zero emotional ties to Bryce.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You're not going to find a better starter in FA than Young. Its that simple. You can bring in another reject for "competition" if it makes you feel better but the truth is Young will be starting here next season barring another injury. 

You gotta try. You absolutely cannot understand any circumstances go into next year with Bryce penciled in as the unquestioned starter. You have to at least bring in a veteran to legitimately compete. This clown show of pretending that Bryce is our franchise QB has to stop.

[PNW_PantherMan]

5 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I's still down for kicking the tires on Trey Lance.

Not a bad choice.  I'm going to go with signing both Mitchy T and Sam Howell for a couple cheeseburgers.  Get both UNC boys and have them fight it out each week for who gets the spot.  Like literally fight it out.  The original XFL coin toss.

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I know it's rare, especially for QBs, but I think Canales and Morgan know he's not the QB1 to take this team to the next level.  Don't be shocked if they decline the 5th-year option. Moreover, if one or both are gone, the odds increase tremendously as a new coach and/or GM have zero emotional ties to Bryce.

then he probably wouldnt be happy and either ask for a trade or to be cut since he knows he isnt the future

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

I know it's rare, especially for QBs, but I think Canales and Morgan know he's not the QB1 to take this team to the next level.  Don't be shocked if they decline the 5th-year option. Moreover, if one or both are gone, the odds increase tremendously as a new coach and/or GM have zero emotional ties to Bryce.

I just don't know if Tepper is ready to swallow that bitter pill yet and unfortunately watching guys like Darnold and Baker bounce back elsewhere and now Daniel Jones too could be giving him the false impression that we still need to keep building around Bryce and not give up yet ignoring the reality that those other guys have a lot more talent than Bryce.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

Keeping Young would be worst than bringing in someone who isn't even as good as him.

Once a 1st overall pick has proven to not be the guy, keeping him around is just asking for trouble, more so than going for a re-set.  Especially as it would mean picking up his 5th year, which in turn means he's probably here for 2 more years.

Sometimes you have to take 1 step backwards to then be able to take 2 steps forward, rather than just staying stuck in the mud.

All you really care about is the Tmac gets his yards. Im not interested in taking a step back. You either improve a situation or you shouldn't be the coach or GM. Im not listening to anyone that can't see past a long ball pass. It takes a hell of a lot more than a big arm to be a great qb in the nfl.

[onmyown]

43 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

This QB draft class kinda sucks. Like the year that we had the 1st pick. I would keep Bryce since it’s the last year of his contract, go after one of the higher end veteran QBs in FA, whoever that will be, and then take a shot on day 2 or 3 on somebody like Haynes King.

At that point, if it fails you can clean house and the new staff has a chance to pick their QB.

Our 1st rounder needs to go towards Edge or LB. Maybe OL but that can probably be handled in Free Agency.

The problem is FA QBs with options won’t come here. Including trades even if we want to overpay. We get leftovers thanks to Tepper.  The only hope is to draft one, and that’s a big hope since the Panthers don’t know how to draft.

Very similar to the Browns.

Edited Monday at 02:57 PM by onmyown