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14 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Go ahead and look up how many QBs have had 2 games of over 300 yard this season. 

 

Go look, seriously.  

I don't have to, I've been paying attention. Defenses are getting better or qb's are getting worse because I've seen the final yards of qb's around the league and it's way down this year.

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29 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I don't have to, I've been paying attention. Defenses are getting better or qb's are getting worse because I've seen the final yards of qb's around the league and it's way down this year.

Yeah that’s true.  
Pendulum at work.  It will go back to the aerial fireworks at some point. 

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2 hours ago, strato said:

Yeah that’s true.  
Pendulum at work.  It will go back to the aerial fireworks at some point. 

As soon as 1 OC figures it out everyone will copy it. Right now everyone is taking advantage of a run game if they have one. Until more teams are able to stop it it will be that way another season or two. Nows the time to build an offense everyone else wants to copy.

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I have not read the rest of this thread, so I’m probably stating something someone else has already stated, so forgive me. 

Gosh it just sucks to see this sort of potential from Bryce. Obviously you want the ability to be there than completely absent. But it just makes you wonder why the hell he can’t conjure it more often. We don’t need him to play like he did yesterday all the time in order to win. But why can’t we get 50 to 75% of that on a consistent basis as his standard of play? How can the John’s be this high and the lows be as low (and as consistent) as they are.  Just baffling and makes the consistent poor play all the more frustrating. 

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33 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

As soon as 1 OC figures it out everyone will copy it. Right now everyone is taking advantage of a run game if they have one. Until more teams are able to stop it it will be that way another season or two. Nows the time to build an offense everyone else wants to copy.

I am big on big picture stuff, like that idea for example. Zag when everyone else is zigging.

Because you will never get anywhere being a middle of the pack follower of trends. 
At the root is and always will be sound football concepts.  Run the ball stop the run. Been hearing that for decades and it holds true through all the shifting trends and fads.

If you think about it, we are so far ahead of everyone right now. We are setting the trend of tiny weak armed QBs.

Soon everyone will be chasing them then we can swoop in and grab the best out of the old fashioned ones with size and big arms and start a new trend. That has to be the plan we just couldn’t see it. 

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3 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I don't have to, I've been paying attention. Defenses are getting better or qb's are getting worse because I've seen the final yards of qb's around the league and it's way down this year.

I think a large part of it falls too on the sheer volume of injuries to receivers and TEs. I can't remember a year when so many players have gone down to injury. It's been a numbers battle since week 6 it seems like. 

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