Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Winning isn't enough for Panther fans.

KaseKlosed

By KaseKlosed,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

KaseKlosed Community Regular

KaseKlosed

Posted
Posted

The Entitlement Paradox: When Winning Isn't Enough for Panther fans. 

 

Just the other season(s) we were praying for wins by any means. Brought in every run of the mill QB you could think of. 

We know all sides of the ball was bad like egregious bad. However some how we have won 5 games and TOXIC ENTITLEMENT has emerged. 

 

We are a team that has to take wins by anymeans nothing has changed. Keep pounding means it aint gonna be perfect!! 

 

Some panther fans have now developed a toxic entitlement where even victories feel insufficient, demanding flawless performance, or perfection, which stems from historical success in which we dont have any lol. This mindset poisons communities by fostering relentless criticism, harassment, and ingratitude that undermine team morale and alienate casual supporters. For the new Carolina Panthers, this could manifest as fans booing Bryce Young after gritty wins for low passing yards despite low turnovers, pressuring tepper into premature changes mid-rebuild, or driving away talent through online abuse!! eroding the positive momentum from their recent 4-game streak has brought us. Trust and believe the players do see your toxicity. 

 

Anyways here are some positive stats. 

 

 

Most Accurate QB on...

20+ Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (79.2%)
2. Sam Darnold (79.2%)
3. Bryce Young (75.0%)

10-19 Yard Throws
1. Jaxson Dart (88.0%)
2. Jayden Daniels (82.9%)
3. Drake Maye (80.7%)

0-9 Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (92.9%)
2. Spencer Rattler (92.6%)
3. Bryce Young (91.7%)

@FantasyPtsData

Screenshot_20251107_032130_Gallery.jpg

  • Pie 4
  • Poo 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Popular Post
kass Mentor

kass

Posted
  • Popular Post
Posted

Winning games and be a +500 team are good. But the goal is to win Super Bowl. 

Chiefs had Alex Smith, went to playoff twice and still replaced him.

 

BY as of now:

- To many fumbles

- Completion in the intermediate range is just far below acceptable

- Not enough of a deep throw threat....

 

The stats you try use is deceiving. 

Catchable...... 

That is an opinion.

Show me the completion %.

And also, how does BY compare to other QBs using the stats you cited. Oh... ranked at 27

A table listing rankings of NFL quarterbacks by accuracy on different throw distances. Columns include Rank Player Name Team POS G 0-9 10-19 20+ Overall with rows for players such as Drake Maye of NE at 92.9% for 0-9 yards Sam Darnold of MIN at 89.1% for 0-9 yards and others like Jared Goff Justin Herbert Jalen Hurts Mac Jones Tua Tagovailoa Trevor Lawrence Baker Mayfield Joe Flacco Sam Howell Jordan Love and more showing percentages for each category.

 

  • Pie 10
  • Flames 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
OldhamA Grand Master

OldhamA

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, KaseKlosed said:

The Entitlement Paradox: When Winning Isn't Enough for Panther fans. 

 

Just the other season(s) we were praying for wins by any means. Brought in every run of the mill QB you could think of. 

We know all sides of the ball was bad like egregious bad. However some how we have won 5 games and TOXIC ENTITLEMENT has emerged. 

 

We are a team that has to take wins by anymeans nothing has changed. Keep pounding means it aint gonna be perfect!! 

 

Some panther fans have now developed a toxic entitlement where even victories feel insufficient, demanding flawless performance, or perfection, which stems from historical success in which we dont have any lol. This mindset poisons communities by fostering relentless criticism, harassment, and ingratitude that undermine team morale and alienate casual supporters. For the new Carolina Panthers, this could manifest as fans booing Bryce Young after gritty wins for low passing yards despite low turnovers, pressuring tepper into premature changes mid-rebuild, or driving away talent through online abuse!! eroding the positive momentum from their recent 4-game streak has brought us. Trust and believe the players do see your toxicity. 

 

Anyways here are some positive stats. 

 

 

Most Accurate QB on...

20+ Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (79.2%)
2. Sam Darnold (79.2%)
3. Bryce Young (75.0%)

10-19 Yard Throws
1. Jaxson Dart (88.0%)
2. Jayden Daniels (82.9%)
3. Drake Maye (80.7%)

0-9 Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (92.9%)
2. Spencer Rattler (92.6%)
3. Bryce Young (91.7%)

@FantasyPtsData

Screenshot_20251107_032130_Gallery.jpg

Winning? Young is 11-27 as a starter.

When did we start getting entitled again?

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
strato Grand Master

strato

Posted
Posted

The difference in the two factions is clear.
One criticizes/critiques performance of a player. Waits for him to validate our massive investment of resources and time. 

The other focuses on criticizing those who criticize. Complain about the complainers. 

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
KillerKat Grand Master

KillerKat

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, KaseKlosed said:

The Entitlement Paradox: When Winning Isn't Enough for Panther fans. 

 

Just the other season(s) we were praying for wins by any means. Brought in every run of the mill QB you could think of. 

We know all sides of the ball was bad like egregious bad. However some how we have won 5 games and TOXIC ENTITLEMENT has emerged. 

 

We are a team that has to take wins by anymeans nothing has changed. Keep pounding means it aint gonna be perfect!! 

 

Some panther fans have now developed a toxic entitlement where even victories feel insufficient, demanding flawless performance, or perfection, which stems from historical success in which we dont have any lol. This mindset poisons communities by fostering relentless criticism, harassment, and ingratitude that undermine team morale and alienate casual supporters. For the new Carolina Panthers, this could manifest as fans booing Bryce Young after gritty wins for low passing yards despite low turnovers, pressuring tepper into premature changes mid-rebuild, or driving away talent through online abuse!! eroding the positive momentum from their recent 4-game streak has brought us. Trust and believe the players do see your toxicity. 

 

Anyways here are some positive stats. 

 

 

Most Accurate QB on...

20+ Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (79.2%)
2. Sam Darnold (79.2%)
3. Bryce Young (75.0%)

10-19 Yard Throws
1. Jaxson Dart (88.0%)
2. Jayden Daniels (82.9%)
3. Drake Maye (80.7%)

0-9 Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (92.9%)
2. Spencer Rattler (92.6%)
3. Bryce Young (91.7%)

@FantasyPtsData

Screenshot_20251107_032130_Gallery.jpg

Stfu

  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Tbe Grand Master

Tbe

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, KaseKlosed said:

The Entitlement Paradox: When Winning Isn't Enough for Panther fans. 

 

Just the other season(s) we were praying for wins by any means. Brought in every run of the mill QB you could think of. 

We know all sides of the ball was bad like egregious bad. However some how we have won 5 games and TOXIC ENTITLEMENT has emerged. 

 

We are a team that has to take wins by anymeans nothing has changed. Keep pounding means it aint gonna be perfect!! 

 

Some panther fans have now developed a toxic entitlement where even victories feel insufficient, demanding flawless performance, or perfection, which stems from historical success in which we dont have any lol. This mindset poisons communities by fostering relentless criticism, harassment, and ingratitude that undermine team morale and alienate casual supporters. For the new Carolina Panthers, this could manifest as fans booing Bryce Young after gritty wins for low passing yards despite low turnovers, pressuring tepper into premature changes mid-rebuild, or driving away talent through online abuse!! eroding the positive momentum from their recent 4-game streak has brought us. Trust and believe the players do see your toxicity. 

 

Anyways here are some positive stats. 

 

 

Most Accurate QB on...

20+ Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (79.2%)
2. Sam Darnold (79.2%)
3. Bryce Young (75.0%)

10-19 Yard Throws
1. Jaxson Dart (88.0%)
2. Jayden Daniels (82.9%)
3. Drake Maye (80.7%)

0-9 Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (92.9%)
2. Spencer Rattler (92.6%)
3. Bryce Young (91.7%)

@FantasyPtsData

Screenshot_20251107_032130_Gallery.jpg


I love winning games as much as anyone, but when it comes to discussing this team’s ability to win championships, QB play is our biggest obstacle.

 

0-9 yard throws: 91.7% (3rd-best) I love check downs.

10-19 yard throws: 57.4% (2nd-WORST. Kyler Murray is 3rd worst ). This is where your money is made as a passer. He can’t be this bad and expect to have a long career.

20-plus yard throws: 75.0% (3rd-best) How many attempts is this? He rarely throws deep unless his guy is wide open.

Maybe Bryce Young could be elite if he were tall enough to see the whole field

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Khaki Lackey Mentor

Khaki Lackey

Posted
Posted (edited)

I'm happy for the wins, and I'm always pulling for Bryce. However, I've seen this movie before. Damn near two decades of it, actually. RonFox-ball gets you around .500. period. always. Yeah you'll catch fire and have a playoff run every now and then if you draft a few world beaters like Cam, Luke, Smitty etc. (never for two consecutive seasons, mind you.)

We're playing that way because we have to.

Edited by Khaki Lackey
  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, KaseKlosed said:

The Entitlement Paradox: When Winning Isn't Enough for Panther fans. 

 

Just the other season(s) we were praying for wins by any means. Brought in every run of the mill QB you could think of. 

We know all sides of the ball was bad like egregious bad. However some how we have won 5 games and TOXIC ENTITLEMENT has emerged. 

 

We are a team that has to take wins by anymeans nothing has changed. Keep pounding means it aint gonna be perfect!! 

 

Some panther fans have now developed a toxic entitlement where even victories feel insufficient, demanding flawless performance, or perfection, which stems from historical success in which we dont have any lol. This mindset poisons communities by fostering relentless criticism, harassment, and ingratitude that undermine team morale and alienate casual supporters. For the new Carolina Panthers, this could manifest as fans booing Bryce Young after gritty wins for low passing yards despite low turnovers, pressuring tepper into premature changes mid-rebuild, or driving away talent through online abuse!! eroding the positive momentum from their recent 4-game streak has brought us. Trust and believe the players do see your toxicity. 

 

Anyways here are some positive stats. 

 

 

Most Accurate QB on...

20+ Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (79.2%)
2. Sam Darnold (79.2%)
3. Bryce Young (75.0%)

10-19 Yard Throws
1. Jaxson Dart (88.0%)
2. Jayden Daniels (82.9%)
3. Drake Maye (80.7%)

0-9 Yard Throws
1. Drake Maye (92.9%)
2. Spencer Rattler (92.6%)
3. Bryce Young (91.7%)

@FantasyPtsData

Screenshot_20251107_032130_Gallery.jpg

Fantasy sites often talk fantasy.   We have seen their numbers dismantled before.  The fantasy football folks have some crazy views on “accurate” balls.   They log really bad throws as accurate.   

Bryce barely throws downfield.  Go post the volume of those throws and production off them lol

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Pantherxtreme
      Top RB performances in Panthers history

      By Pantherxtreme · Posted

      DeAngelo Williams: 1515 yards (2008) Steven Davis: 1444 yards (2003) Christian McCaffrey: 1387 yards (2019) Chuba Hubbard: 1195 yards (2024) Jonathan Stewart: 1133 yards (2009)   DeAngelo Williams 1515 yards in 2008 are most in Panthers history for a season this was when Double Trouble was at it's height. That year he averaged 94 yards a game. Steven Davis missed 2 games 2003 so he comes in at the most yards per game in a season at 103 yards. Mccaffrey averaged 86 yards a game in his 2019 campaign he also recorded 1005 yards receiving making his season statistically the best in Panthers history for a RB, had the Panthers had a better record he could have been a favorite for MVP. Dowdle currently is averaging 81 yards a game despite only starting 3 games thus far. In the games he has started 206, 183, 130 he's averaging 173 yards. In Green Bay he rushed for 130 despite having a 21 yard run wiped out due to illegal procedure penalty that could of saw a 150 yard day.    Top 5 yards per carry. Dowdle 5:6 (2025) Williams: 5.5 (2008) Stewart: 5.1 (2009) Mccaffrey: 4.8 (2019) Hubbard: 4.7 (2024) If Dowdle continues even close to the pace he's on he's poised to break DeAngelo Williams single season Panther rushing record.       
    • TLGPanthersFan
      Winning isn't enough for Panther fans.

      By TLGPanthersFan · Posted

      They won because the Raiders Raidered
    • HaricotVert
      This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion in Here)

      By HaricotVert · Posted

      The BY9 situation is classic sunk cost fallacy. We traded premium assets to get him. Every few games he flashes the traits that made him appealing (quick reads, touch, composure) but the macro picture doesnt lie. Hes producing at a bottom-tier level across efficiency metrics in yards per attempt, EPA/play, completion percentage over expected, and explosive plays. Instead of objectively reassessing, the organization continues to justify the investment - new coaches, new systems, new excuses - trying to salvage what was invested. Giving him a 5th year is a self inflicted would.  We need to take our lumps and move on
×
×
  • Create New...