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[Proudiddy]

16 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Please destroy your profile picture

it initially was made out of hope, now it serves as an Onion-level satire of his tenure here.  Good times.

[Bear Hands]

1 hour ago, strato said:

The probably second worst to me behind the weak velocity and effective strike range is that we really almost never see a target catch the ball without breaking stride. Tell me when. Possibly the recent Rico swing pass. Whoopty do. 

I've said it before but he's smart in knowing anticipation within a play's design, but he can't see the live-field to properly layer a throw. 

So many issues..

-Slow, shallow drops that restrict sight lines

-Because of this, he can't see the field and gets swallowed up even when an OL holds up

-So then he bails when he doesn't need to, and can't properly survey

-And also can't put the touch on intermediates enough to produce YAC.

Smitty would've gone ham on him if he was catching his balls.  Probably gotten a few black eyes in practice already.  McMillan was even looking visibly frustrated the past two games.  The kid doesn't have it. It's over.  It really is. 

We've given him so much time for how bad he's been.  Far longer than Zach Wilson or Josh Rosen at this stage.  

and edit:

Someone else mentioned it but Cam told us who he was that first drive first game.  I think Bryce did as well, just the complete opposite of the spectrum.  I cannot wait for a guy to just be able to push downfield again.  We have weapons to do it with.  

[strato]

17 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

I've said it before but he's smart in knowing anticipation within a play's design, but he can't see the live-field to properly layer a throw. 

So many issues..

-Slow, shallow drops that restrict sight lines

-Because of this, he can't see the field and gets swallowed up even when an OL holds up

-So then he bails when he doesn't need to, and can't properly survey

-And also can't put the touch on intermediates enough to produce YAC.

Smitty would've gone ham on him if he was catching his balls.  Probably gotten a few black eyes in practice already.  McMillan was even looking visibly frustrated the past two games.  The kid doesn't have it. It's over.  It really is. 

We've given him so much time for how bad he's been.  Far longer than Zach Wilson or Josh Rosen at this stage.  

and edit:

Someone else mentioned it but Cam told us who he was that first drive first game.  I think Bryce did as well, just the complete opposite of the spectrum.  I cannot wait for a guy to just be able to push downfield again.  We have weapons to do it with.  

I hundred percent agree with what you are saying. 
And I am pretty sure the guy that said they told us who they were their first game was me so you came to the right place lol. 
 

This poo is not rocket surgery it is common sense. 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by strato

[raleigh-panther]

13 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

I've said it before but he's smart in knowing anticipation within a play's design, but he can't see the live-field to properly layer a throw. 

So many issues..

-Slow, shallow drops that restrict sight lines

-Because of this, he can't see the field and gets swallowed up even when an OL holds up

-So then he bails when he doesn't need to, and can't properly survey

-And also can't put the touch on intermediates enough to produce YAC.

Smitty would've gone ham on him if he was catching his balls.  Probably gotten a few black eyes in practice already.  McMillan was even looking visibly frustrated the past two games.  The kid doesn't have it. It's over.  It really is. 

We've given him so much time for how bad he's been.  Far longer than Zach Wilson or Josh Rosen at this stage.  

and edit:

Someone else mentioned it but Cam told us who he was that first drive first game.  I think Bryce did as well, just the complete opposite of the spectrum.  I cannot wait for a guy to just be able to push downfield again.  We have weapons to do it with.  

I have never seen a qb so lackadaisical getting to the line, getting the ball snapped, doing something with it after the snap

Everything he does  is slow motion 

…it is like he just woke up from a nap on the sofa in his parents’ basement after playing video games 

no urgency whatsoever.  

I do not think he could throw before the receivers cut if his very life depended on it 

perhaps the national criticism this week will light a fire under his happy little ass

Edited 6 hours ago by raleigh-panther

[NorthTryon]

22 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I’ve been saying this about XL.  Again, it’s unfair to judge any of these WRs or TEs as long as Bryce is QB.  XL could easily have the numbers Tet has right now or close to it, and Tet should have about 25 more receptions himself, if they had a fuging legitimate QB.  If I was a WR I would be pissed tf off with this whole organization…  well, I’d feel that way at any position, but especially WR.  Not only are you limiting our success as a team, but you’re making me look bad at my job in the process and hurting my potential to get paid what I deserve.  They need to sit Bryce tf down.

Nobody is listening to or observing the obvious. They dislike the kid at this point and he is going to have to have a 1500yd receiving season for them to just be quiet. 

21 hours ago, Waldo said:

Any of the WRs should look better with better QB play. XL has some issues not tied to QB play that is evident so even with better production from better QB play there is plenty to be concerned about with XL. For me his improvement doesn't seem to be an issue with him and he doesn't even appear to be working on it vs what Ickey did year 1 to year 2 to year 3. Not saying it can't happen but finding a new QB isn't magically going to address all of XL's issues.

XL nor any of our other WRs can truly be evaluated with the current QB play. I know you guys wanted Ladd, but the ALL 22 and anybody without an agenda can see that XL is running buck naked wide open a lot and not getting the throws. In the Green Bay game, he out ran the coverage 2-3 times and Bryce didn't even think to try to make the throw. I admit Ladd may have been better for Bryce as he does well in short spaces, but acting like XL is dumb, doesn't want to play football, hasn't been working, and doesn't care is nonsense! Remember when Dalton came in at the end of the Jets game and XL magically looked better? That change magically addressed a lot of XL's issues that day didn't it. Imagine someone better than Dalton. 

[Waldo]

40 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

XL nor any of our other WRs can truly be evaluated with the current QB play. I know you guys wanted Ladd, but the ALL 22 and anybody without an agenda can see that XL is running buck naked wide open a lot and not getting the throws. In the Green Bay game, he out ran the coverage 2-3 times and Bryce didn't even think to try to make the throw. I admit Ladd may have been better for Bryce as he does well in short spaces, but acting like XL is dumb, doesn't want to play football, hasn't been working, and doesn't care is nonsense! Remember when Dalton came in at the end of the Jets game and XL magically looked better? That change magically addressed a lot of XL's issues that day didn't it. Imagine someone better than Dalton. 

They can't completely be evaluated but he absolutely can be evaluated for the stuff that isn't on the QB. Effort, working on his route tree and his technique isn't on the QB.

As for him being open deep, that for me gets filed under have to see with a better QB play or at least a QB that has deeper pass ability. Is he open deep because he is good or because the D knows his QB's ability? That's one spot we have to wait and see.

XL is dumbish. It's not his accent or personality he just isn't terribly bright. Good news is he is a football player so he just has to be smart enough to try to keep improving his game. He hasn't improved his game and actually admitted to not working on anything, Im guessing he meant beyond normal because we all know he is practicing. But the fact is he came in a project and needs to improve his game.

XL will look better with better QB play but how much? Worth a late 1st pick? Because he hasn't got close to that value yet.

Edited 5 hours ago by Waldo

[hepcat]

23 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I don't think a fresh start can help Young because his issue is that he simply doesn't have the physical tools. This isn't a  Baker or Darnold or Daniel Jones. Those guys always had the physical ability to play they were just in bad situations and landed in better situations that were able to maximize what they had to offer rather than dragging down a guy with abilities. Yeah, flaws as well but definitely physical ability. You can't coach Bryce into being able to see over the line or rifle a ball into a tight window or stretch the field. It's about physical limitations with Bryce and situation or coaching can't fix that.

Low key Daniel Jones still the same, Jonathan Taylor is the reason that offense is excellent. Darnold and Baker though, lights out. 

[PantherKyle]

23 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I’ve been saying this about XL.  Again, it’s unfair to judge any of these WRs or TEs as long as Bryce is QB.  XL could easily have the numbers Tet has right now or close to it, and Tet should have about 25 more receptions himself, if they had a fuging legitimate QB.  If I was a WR I would be pissed tf off with this whole organization…  well, I’d feel that way at any position, but especially WR.  Not only are you limiting our success as a team, but you’re making me look bad at my job in the process and hurting my potential to get paid what I deserve.  They need to sit Bryce tf down.

XL is a bum

[Shotgun]

23 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I’ve been saying this about XL.  Again, it’s unfair to judge any of these WRs or TEs as long as Bryce is QB.  XL could easily have the numbers Tet has right now or close to it, and Tet should have about 25 more receptions himself, if they had a fuging legitimate QB.  If I was a WR I would be pissed tf off with this whole organization…  well, I’d feel that way at any position, but especially WR.  Not only are you limiting our success as a team, but you’re making me look bad at my job in the process and hurting my potential to get paid what I deserve.  They need to sit Bryce tf down.

XL could defiantly improve from totally lost to mostly lost with a good QB.

[strato]

2 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

I have never seen a qb so lackadaisical getting to the line, getting the ball snapped, doing something with it after the snap

Everything he does  is slow motion 

…it is like he just woke up from a nap on the sofa in his parents’ basement after playing video games 

no urgency whatsoever.  

I do not think he could throw before the receivers cut if his very life depended on it 

perhaps the national criticism this week will light a fire under his happy little ass

The first game in 2023, the pace of his drops was actually shocking to me.  Two things I remember the most was the limited depth of the passing game and that casual no hurry manner of operating. I was flabbergasted really. Could not believe what I was watching. 
I knew the footwork and arm strength issues but had not realized the pace he played at. 

Edited 3 hours ago by strato

[PNW_PantherMan]

20 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Dumbasses don't know nothing bout no big time throws and GWDS 

Big time flags