Canales

[scratched]

His seat has to be hot! In the 2 most pivotal games this year, NO at home and SF on Monday night football, he finds a way to look even worse than BY! He needs to give up play calling duties, and hope it changes the trajectory, if he truly wants to keep his job. 9 carries by our RBs and 2 pass attempts to TEs against a team who is extremely weak at LB position is unacceptable. His use of TOs was terrible and his decision on when to go for it and when not to was terrible! I think we need him gone and bring in someone who picks the QB they want to run the offense. This just isn't working. 

[Waldo]

Too soon. 1 game out of .500 so with this crew they are probably still talking playoffs. Going to have to see what they do the rest of the season before I can get my hopes up for next year. 

Let's talk after the Rams game on a short week.

Edited 1 hour ago by Waldo

[Kentucky Panther]

I really don’t know how people expect Canales to succeed with the fifth grader he has starting behind center every week. I hope he gets a chance with a really quarterback next year. It will be a much more fair assessment. 

[ImfromClayton]

I don't think Canales is on the hot seat at all. We've seen substantial improvement in his time here. 

That said, the issues on offense are either Bryce or Canales, or both, and at some point, Tepp is going to have to pick a scape goat. 

[CRA]

12 minutes ago, scratched said:

His seat has to be hot! In the 2 most pivotal games this year, NO at home and SF on Monday night football, he finds a way to look even worse than BY! He needs to give up play calling duties, and hope it changes the trajectory, if he truly wants to keep his job. 9 carries by our RBs and 2 pass attempts to TEs against a team who is extremely weak at LB position is unacceptable. His use of TOs was terrible and his decision on when to go for it and when not to was terrible! I think we need him gone and bring in someone who picks the QB they want to run the offense. This just isn't working. 

Canales IMO was screwed the moment they allowed the Bryce Young "comeback" last season.  Which to me was Morgan and the front office screwing him by not immediately trading him after they "moved on". 

if you are Canales how do you get rid of Bryce?  Because if you coach the Panthers to a win last night in spite of Bryce....which a decent coach likely could of or should of.....you are going to end up w/ Bryce Young again next year doing so. 

so to an extent, Canales has to treat him like he is supposed to.  It's a double edge sword and lose lose scenario for Dave. 

[Pantherxtreme]

Just now, ImfromClayton said:

I don't think Canales is on the hot seat at all. We've seen substantial improvement in his time here. 

That said, the issues on offense are either Bryce or Canales, or both, and at some point, Tepp is going to have to pick a scape goat. 

I'm of the belief if you have a defensive minded head coach and your defense sucks you don't have a good coach. 

If you have an offensive minded head coach and your offense stinks you don't have a good coach. 

All the resources poured into the offense and a scrub defense like the 49ers held us to 3 points for entire half, after giving us 3 turnovers. 

Something is wrong and at the end of the day is the "coaches decision" who plays, so the buck stops there. 

 

[BrewerHouseBeer]

Next year we need a new QB and I dont care who it is, just not anyone currently on this roster. We also need a real OC and let them handle calling plays. Canales has had several games in his short career as a play calling head coach that are just inexcusable. Play calling head coaches are only elite head coaches. It's just too much to do for a guy with no experience. 

[Swaggasaurus]

The deal with the carries is because we couldn’t sustain drives. We could’ve handed it to Chuba or Rico on the goal line. But Bryce had a walk in TD and threw it to the other team. That still wasn’t a bad call, because the TD was there. Had we had some conversations we would’ve had more runs. Offense could never get in rhythm. The forward pass has to be a threat to run effectively.

[ImfromClayton]

The strength of the offense has been shortening games with the run game, and then being more efficient with our possessions than our opponents. 

I'm fine if we want to play like that, and I understand that it's going to limit the quarterback's numbers if we do. The Eagles have won a lot of games like that the last several years. 

That said, we can't do that and have turnovers. Whatever it takes to solve that problem, we need to get it done. I thought Bryce could have walked into the end zone on the first pick. I thought the officials missed a terrible DPI and/or DH on the second one. We also had some fumble issues last night. All that said, I feel like we have an excuse for this offense every time they don't succeed. And I'm just as guilty. But if we have to make an excuse for 15 different interceptions, at some point, were just being dumb and the excuses get tired. 

At some point, we have carved out an identity. We just have to be that identity. If we can't do that, we either have to change the personnel, or approach the game differently.

[DaveThePanther2008]

We're falling into the same trap Miami is in.  Tua is never going to carry Miami to the playoffs but is going to win enough games to keep him as a QB.    BY can beat bad teams but when it comes to winning against good opponents, he can't carry the team.  

[jfra78]

Canales and Dan aren't tied to Young.  They will get a chance with their guy

[PadresPanthersFan]

The team overall is light years better than it was 2 years ago and we have all our picks in the next draft and we're not in cap he'll.

Canales playcalling is suspect and some decisions are bone headed but I legitimately wonder if some of it's a product of who's at qb. 

We win in spite of young and lose because of him. For every good game he has 3 or 4 absolute duds. This is not sustainable.  Almost every measurable metric says he sucks. He already got 1 coach canned halfway into the season. 

I'm willing to give Canales a longer leash bc I want to see what he can do with an actual nfl qb

 

[Daddy_Uncle]

They said on the broadcast last night what I have been saying. Canales is limited to what he can do because of Bryce. Last week in Atlanta he seemed genuinely so happy that he got to use most of the playbook and Bryce set a record. But from week to week we never know which Bryce is going to show up. The Atlanta Bryce was obviously a fluke. If he could play Atlanta every week he'd be good. 

[Johnstonny]

I'm OK with Canales for now and would like to see him with a QB that can run his offense. I'm not always enamored with his play calling but I think his choices are definitely limited with the half pint pinto under center. Its truly amazing he won any games with this qb.