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Our Next QB: The Qualifiers

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Bear Hands Grand Master

Bear Hands

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We are here.  We have arrived at this moment.  

So, where are we at? Me (and I really don't think this is too much to ask)

Non-Negotiables

  • Hits baseline mass/strength/body type standards of a pro-QB (i.e. at least the avg 6'1 215) - sorry Kyler, Russ
  • Above Average (at minimum) arm strength 
  • Pocket proficiency: Well-refined mechanics & pro-level footwork
  • Can effectively run a QB sneak
  • Can attempt half-time ending prayer shots
  • Functional Speed/Quickness
  • Awareness (Particularly pre-snap) 

Negotiables:

  • Strengths in intermediate/second level throws 
  • FA vs. Rookie - just find the guys you like, multiple/a competition would be fine
  • Mobility-type - doesn't need to be a runner (I.E. Hurts, Daniels), he just needs to have the combination of speed and size to utilize 
  • Pro-level scheme knowledge/experience - if he has the tools, you can develop with the right guys around you.  Allen didn't have this, Mahomes not much.  

Who's eliminated:

Bryce, Kyler, Russ, Nuss

Who's Not:

FA: Howell (baseline FA), Levis, Lance, Pickett, Stidham, Mariota...yuck, but you get the picture

Draft: Simpson, Mendoza, D Moore, Maiava

 

this is where we are...

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PootieNunu Grand Master

PootieNunu

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9 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

We are here.  We have arrived at this moment.  

So, where are we at? Me (and I really don't think this is too much to ask)

Non-Negotiables

  • Hits baseline mass/strength/body type standards of a pro-QB (i.e. at least the avg 6'1 215) - sorry Kyler, Russ
  • Above Average (at minimum) arm strength 
  • Pocket proficiency: Well-refined mechanics & pro-level footwork
  • Can effectively run a QB sneak
  • Can attempt half-time ending prayer shots
  • Functional Speed/Quickness
  • Awareness (Particularly pre-snap) 

Negotiables:

  • Strengths in intermediate/second level throws 
  • FA vs. Rookie - just find the guys you like, multiple/a competition would be fine
  • Mobility-type - doesn't need to be a runner (I.E. Hurts, Daniels), he just needs to have the combination of speed and size to utilize 
  • Pro-level scheme knowledge/experience - if he has the tools, you can develop with the right guys around you.  Allen didn't have this, Mahomes not much.  

Who's eliminated:

Bryce, Kyler, Russ, Nuss

Who's Not:

FA: Howell (baseline FA), Levis, Lance, Pickett, Stidham, Mariota...yuck, but you get the picture

Draft: Simpson, Mendoza, D Moore, Maiava

 

this is where we are...

Bring in a vet like Mariota and a developmental player like Lance, doesnt have to be those guys just putting names out. Would be cool with like a Jameis, Howell type situation too. We also have to draft at least one.

They need to have a serious plan for QB for next season, This poo needs to end. We dont have to go all in on a QB but at least jettison these trash tier guys and get some NFL arms on the team. 

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TheBigKat

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34 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

We are here.  We have arrived at this moment.  

So, where are we at? Me (and I really don't think this is too much to ask)

Non-Negotiables

  • Hits baseline mass/strength/body type standards of a pro-QB (i.e. at least the avg 6'1 215) - sorry Kyler, Russ
  • Above Average (at minimum) arm strength 
  • Pocket proficiency: Well-refined mechanics & pro-level footwork
  • Can effectively run a QB sneak
  • Can attempt half-time ending prayer shots
  • Functional Speed/Quickness
  • Awareness (Particularly pre-snap) 

Negotiables:

  • Strengths in intermediate/second level throws 
  • FA vs. Rookie - just find the guys you like, multiple/a competition would be fine
  • Mobility-type - doesn't need to be a runner (I.E. Hurts, Daniels), he just needs to have the combination of speed and size to utilize 
  • Pro-level scheme knowledge/experience - if he has the tools, you can develop with the right guys around you.  Allen didn't have this, Mahomes not much.  

Who's eliminated:

Bryce, Kyler, Russ, Nuss

Who's Not:

FA: Howell (baseline FA), Levis, Lance, Pickett, Stidham, Mariota...yuck, but you get the picture

Draft: Simpson, Mendoza, D Moore, Maiava

 

this is where we are...

The Rams with their two 1sts will likely package and take Mendoza

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Waldo Grand Master

Waldo

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Put a pin in this. I just can't until I know the team is ready to move on. Did you see their approach to QB this year? More of that would be a 6th ir 7th pick while saying something about Purdy just so they can roll Young out another year. 

Looks nice but it's an overwhelming amount of hope given what is still in front of us all. 

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Johnstonny

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40 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

We are here.  We have arrived at this moment.  

So, where are we at? Me (and I really don't think this is too much to ask)

Non-Negotiables

  • Hits baseline mass/strength/body type standards of a pro-QB (i.e. at least the avg 6'1 215) - sorry Kyler, Russ
  • Above Average (at minimum) arm strength 
  • Pocket proficiency: Well-refined mechanics & pro-level footwork
  • Can effectively run a QB sneak
  • Can attempt half-time ending prayer shots
  • Functional Speed/Quickness
  • Awareness (Particularly pre-snap) 

Negotiables:

  • Strengths in intermediate/second level throws 
  • FA vs. Rookie - just find the guys you like, multiple/a competition would be fine
  • Mobility-type - doesn't need to be a runner (I.E. Hurts, Daniels), he just needs to have the combination of speed and size to utilize 
  • Pro-level scheme knowledge/experience - if he has the tools, you can develop with the right guys around you.  Allen didn't have this, Mahomes not much.  

Who's eliminated:

Bryce, Kyler, Russ, Nuss

Who's Not:

FA: Howell (baseline FA), Levis, Lance, Pickett, Stidham, Mariota...yuck, but you get the picture

Draft: Simpson, Mendoza, D Moore, Maiava

 

this is where we are...

You mean all the sht we shoulda done with BY? He maybe has one tick on that scale.

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carpanfan96

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4 minutes ago, mrBdawg said:

Bryce young is under contract next year. He will be the starting quarterback in 2026. You can count on it

If he's on the field, the fan base will start to turn on the organization. He's got to be cut, in no way shape or form should he even be involved in the QB room next year and if he is, that's a slap in the face of all the fans that buy tickets and merch

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