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I'm happy we won and I'd love nothing more for the light bulb to go off but I've seen enough to know we need more talent in that qb room. Purdy and countless other qbs have been more consistent  than Bryce and aren't the answer for their respective  franchise. I'd love that Stat more if he didn't have such a lopsided  win/loss  thing going on. Going to celebrate the win but we need consistency! We should be leading the division  right now and just like he did his part in a couple of our wins, he's done just as much damage in our losses. 

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26 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Honest question, how many games in his career has he not even had the opportunity to do this?

If we're down 1 point entering the 4th quarter and we score a TD on the first play of the quarter and then never give up the lead, that counts as a GWD for this stat.

The Falcons shutout this year obviously is one, but outside of that, have we ever entered the 4th quarter with a lead and held it until the game was over?

I'd love to know how many chances Peyton and Allen even had compared to Bryce at the same time frame.

If you look at all our wins, excluding the 30-0 Atalanta win, they are all by three (with some in OT) and one 7 point win against the jets. I think that’s interesting. 

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Just now, The Lobo said:

If you look at all our wins, excluding the 30-0 Atalanta win, they are all by three (with some in OT) and one 7 point win against the jets. I think that’s interesting. 

Isn't this a young team just learning ways to win? How many times were we on the losing end? Great teams win the tough ones, there's a new culture growing in the building, and it starts with the QB, no matter how many times he is counted out, he Keeps Pounding 

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2 minutes ago, CarolinaReaper said:

Isn't this a young team just learning ways to win? How many times were we on the losing end? Great teams win the tough ones, there's a new culture growing in the building, and it starts with the QB, no matter how many times he is counted out, he Keeps Pounding 

I guess we will see if we are great, I hope we are 

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19 minutes ago, CarolinaReaper said:

Isn't this a young team just learning ways to win? How many times were we on the losing end? Great teams win the tough ones, there's a new culture growing in the building, and it starts with the QB, no matter how many times he is counted out, he Keeps Pounding 

Yes, young teams need to learn how to win close games.

But an overwhelming number of wins (or losses) in 1 score games is usually more about just better luck than anything else.  It's why those teams with such a drastic W-L record in 1 score games are usually widely predicted by experts to have the opposite happen in the following season, and it goes for both wins or losses (see the Vikings and Chiefs this year for example).

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41 minutes ago, TN05 said:

No one has ever scrutinized the GWD stat as much as this forum has since Bryce Young started winning games

GWD is the critical stat for an NFL QB. What you need for perspective is GWD %.  This is how many opportunities he converts. 2023 was 12.5%. 2024 was 33.3%. 2025 is 50%. Career is 28.9%.

A consistent playoff winning QB is in the 30% range. A championship caliber QB is in the 40% range. He has been tracking well even with his major limitations under the development of Canales. This is the only reason he is holding on, but he is at the same level of a Derek Carr with the Raiders. Carr was 32.4% GWD in his first 3 seasons with 12 GWD in 37 opportunities.

This gives you perspective on why he is frustrating to evaluate. Carr did what for the Raiders? 2 winning seasons in 9 seasons with 4 different HCs/OCs. This is what we want as Panthers fans? A decade of average with potential and many moments of hope? At least he'll win a QB skill competition like Carr, right?

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Given how any one score game likely results in a GWD, it’s a stat I’ve always thought was a fun fluffer add for guys who were already good to make them sound even more elite.

It’s never just been advertised so heavily, particular for a guy people still aren’t sure about.

its not a stat that just inherently proves he’s great.

That aside, this was a solid game by him. But it wasn’t really until the first 4th throw that really got him in motion. Was pretty frustrating Q1 through half of 2

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21 minutes ago, Basbear said:

"hater" checking in or super fan..... BY played great. Elements and great rams D, I mean verse is down right horror fuel.

Besides the INT, Panthers D could not stop the rams.....BY and his key 3rd&4th throws helped the Panthers pull off the upset. 

There were 2 INTs and can't forget the strip sack by Brown on Stafford. Defense played a huge part in this game. Without them stepping up when they did, this is a L. 

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9 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

There were 2 INTs and can't forget the strip sack by Brown on Stafford. Defense played a huge part in this game. Without them stepping up when they did, this is a L. 

Yes sir, 3 TOs(one in the end zone other in the red zone HUGGGGEE!). Still I think the rams only punted once, they could have ran it down the Panthers thoats cause they were getting 6 yards on the bad runs. Panthers D just had no answers.....except GETTING 3 TOS!!!! Big passes 51, 31, just could not stop them. They are the #1 and MVP for a reason, super happy Panthers upset them. 

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