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Official Week 15: Panthers @ Saints Gameday Thread


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Just now, t96 said:

I’m glad our game is late, my flight this morning was delayed 3 hours so otherwise I’d have missed it. But yeah weird we’re late with both teams being eastern. 

I’m glad it is too as I’m sitting here with no power in 22 degree weather. I’m hoping the power is back on before the game or I freeze to death.

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I’m confident but honestly this whole season so far has been house money in my view. Never expected we’d come even remotely near a playoff spot, let alone the division. If we lose so be it, I expected every Nov/Dec game to be entirely meaningless. Hopefully we win, but no nervousness when we’re far ahead of where I thought we’d be — actually getting to enjoy football in the 2nd half of the season rather than every game only mattering for draft position…

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3 minutes ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

Patriots are bitch slapping the Bills right now. They sure seem to be legit. Part of me thinks the dream scenario would be Panthers going on a crazy playoff run, making the super bowl, and getting a revenge matchup against the Pats.

As I was watching, unless something crazy happens, the Pats are winning the AFC.  And I’ve been saying the same for us as of late - I hope we go on a magical playoff run.  Yes, we have had some shitty games, but we also have beat the top team in our conference twice this season.  We are capable, we just have to be consistent.

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30 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Bryce is a dome qb. I think we make a statement today. Hopefully it's a positive one

Bryce is an Atlanta QB.   PFR separates domes from retractable roofs.   Pure domes, really dictated by NO is his worst work.  Just like Atlanta gives the open roof setup his best work

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounBr01/splits/

complete Jeckyl and Hyde performances with 2 opponents.  Atlanta and the Saints are the extreme variants of Bryce to date 

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1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

I've literally only just realised this.

Settled in to watch the game and then looked at the schedule. No reason this should be a late game.

Did the same...

1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

Why are we playing at 4:25?

My guess? The league sometimes prefers to have playoff important games at 4pm.

That would only apply if the game was moved though. I don't think it was, but I could be wrong.

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