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3 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

From a pure individual game standpoint, he has the most well rounded single WR performance since Smitty tonight. 

That’s nothing AT ALL against Tmac, it was just that impressive IMO.

Feel great about those two in house.

I felt the same.  He was channeling Smitty out there.  Really felt like we have our new Moose and Smitty in T Mac and Coker.  It only took 20 years.

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Leggete does not contribute anything significant to our passing attack. Despite the drop tonight, I'd rather see Jimmy Horn get those snaps at #3...or Tremayne.. 

It's possible XL could improve but I doubt it.  I can see giving him one more chance in 2026, but if someone was interested in trading for him the team should consider moving him. if he stays but doesn't improve by end of the 2026 season the FO refuse to pick up the 5th year option and move on.

 

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3 hours ago, Cuttinedge said:

They can give him XLs money cause Coker made XL expendable after today. No reason not to trade XL and find a good  affordable FA   slot 

I was working so wasn't super focused but every time they threw to XL and it was incomplete, I think about 3, I was like T-mac or Coker would have caught that lol. 

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3 hours ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

Might have whiffed on the first round receiver in that draft but hit a home run on an undrafted FA. Almost evens out. Him and Tet should be 1/2 for years to come. 

I mean when it comes to udfa's if they click you gotta pay them early. Waste of a 5th year option as far as cap/draft strategy goes since XL obviously shouldn't get it.  Luckily Coker is actually a Panthers fan so he'll want to work something out to stay long term. 

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