Extend Icky...

[chknwing]

ok hear me out before you throw stuff...Icky is not in a negotiating position. Will be a free agent next year, unless carolina does the 5th year option.  He may not get a better deal from another team coming off this bad an injury.  Could have him over a barrel for a team friendly contract.  Cap savings would be substantial this season to sign a few more players.

[mrcompletely11]

Lol.  No

[Lame Duck]

32 minutes ago, chknwing said:

ok hear me out before you throw stuff...Icky is not in a negotiating position. Will be a free agent next year, unless carolina does the 5th year option.  He may not get a better deal from another team coming off this bad an injury.  Could have him over a barrel for a team friendly contract.  Cap savings would be substantial this season to sign a few more players.

I love you brotha but just no… (you and I used to tailgate together with Brandon (from Orlando) and Riot back in the day (before he got all famous and poo).

[Panthero]

Next im gonna hear his brother is the Center so that means he'll be a good LT. (This is what many floated when Matt Khalils bum ass got signed). 

[LinvilleGorge]

Nope. Can't do it until we see how he looks after his injury. It's a big one. One that routinely derails careers.

[mrcompletely11]

given our luck and history would it surprise anyone that Icky has played his last down as a Panther?  And this is coming from probably the biggest icky fan on this board

[Aussie Tank]

Well hard pass for me 

Edited March 4 by Aussie Tank

[strato]

55 minutes ago, chknwing said:

ok hear me out before you throw stuff...Icky is not in a negotiating position. Will be a free agent next year, unless carolina does the 5th year option.  He may not get a better deal from another team coming off this bad an injury.  Could have him over a barrel for a team friendly contract.  Cap savings would be substantial this season to sign a few more players.

Too late. You owe me a flat screen lol. 

He will be a mystery to us and himself for quite some time yet. 
Hell his 5th year is guaranteed and he won’t be giving any of it back. Nearly 16 million. I think. 

If he doesn’t return to form he can retire very damned luxuriously on 10-12 million or whatever he gets to keep after taxes and agent cut. We aren’t fuging him, let’s don’t fug ourselves. 

[MHS831]

Correct this logic

I might if it meant taking his guaranteed money now and spread it over 3 years (2026-2028) and maybe add $6m.  I am not sure you can do that, or that he would do it, but it would be a way for him to extend his career and bank accounts and we would be getting him for $6m for 2 years (if healthy), basically, since his entire salary is guaranteed now.  If not, we lose an additional $6m spread over 2 years.  So let's say his guaranteed $$ for 2026 is $18m.  Give him a $24m contract ($8m per) through 2028.  Worst case:  We get $10m in cap relief now and create $3m dead cap for 2 years (2027-8).   Best case?  We get cap relief now and a good/decent guard/tackle for 2 years (2027-2028) and the total salary per year when he is active would be $12m if you don't count any money for the season he cannot play.  That is a good value, and we'd basically be getting a 50% discount rate.  Since we have so much guaranteed now, extending him is not as crazy as it seems.

 

Something has to be wrong with this logic...

 

 

 

[strato]

32 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Correct this logic

I might if it meant taking his guaranteed money now and spread it over 3 years (2026-2028) and maybe add $6m.  I am not sure you can do that, or that he would do it, but it would be a way for him to extend his career and bank accounts and we would be getting him for $6m for 2 years (if healthy), basically, since his entire salary is guaranteed now.  If not, we lose an additional $6m spread over 2 years.  So let's say his guaranteed $$ for 2026 is $18m.  Give him a $24m contract ($8m per) through 2028.  Worst case:  We get $10m in cap relief now and create $3m dead cap for 2 years (2027-8).   Best case?  We get cap relief now and a good/decent guard/tackle for 2 years (2027-2028) and the total salary per year when he is active would be $12m if you don't count any money for the season he cannot play.  That is a good value, and we'd basically be getting a 50% discount rate.  Since we have so much guaranteed now, extending him is not as crazy as it seems.

 

Something has to be wrong with this logic...

 

 

 

I don’t think the concept is bad thinking. That money this year is a ball buster, for getting nothing out of it. 
 

gives him a little future location security and maybe hope that if he can get back we’ll pay him, with a renegotiation. Could give us some relief this year. That is kind of creative. 

Edited March 4 by strato

[Jon Snow]

[OldhamA]

11 hours ago, Lame Duck said:

I love you brotha but just no… (you and I used to tailgate together with Brandon (from Orlando) and Riot back in the day (before he got all famous and poo).

Genuinely do the Panthers have any famous fans outside of that basketball player?

[OldhamA]

11 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

given our luck and history would it surprise anyone that Icky has played his last down as a Panther?  And this is coming from probably the biggest icky fan on this board

We don't know how it's going to turn out at the moment as he's just had the surgery, but I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back and isn't anywhere near the same player. 

[Lame Duck]

@chknwing