Jeremy Fowler: Panthers going after Odafe Oweh, Devin Lloyd, Tremaine Edmunds, Kenny Pickett

[ClawOn]

18 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

The Panthers are absolutely going to overpay this guy. What happened to drafting our core players Dan? 

Too many holes just for the draft, no?

[strato]

I have been looking ay Otton because Canales knows him, because I have seen him make plays against us, and wouldn’t be a hot name that will cost a ton. 
Likely is another one. We don’t need to get Sidiq to address the position. 

[PadresPanthersFan]

57 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This. Watching the media go right back to proclaiming him the favorite for the Heisman and #1 overall pick next year is wild.

Well they did that with shadeur and that didn't go well

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, PadresPanthersFan said:

Well they did that with shadeur and that didn't go well

Hell, many still are. Clinging to that absurd Pro Bowl nomination like its an MVP and a Lombardi. 

[strato]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hell, many still are. Clinging to that absurd Pro Bowl nomination like its an MVP and a Lombardi. 

That’s crazy. That is probably most undeserving inclusion I can remember.

I am kind of rooting for him, but I would’t dream of advocating for him and using ‘he made the pro bowl!’ that’s for sure. I am not really advocating, just for whatever reason am pulling for him - I guess because he was treated so badly. Despite his silver spoon background. 

Edited 47 minutes ago by strato

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/2030996556527071252?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA
The belief is #Jaguars All-Pro LB Devin Lloyd won’t be back with Jacksonville in free agency due to his high price. The #Panthers are among the teams to watch.

A Spotrac guy on Twitter is quoting 4 year 85 million deal

[rodeo]

How many of the people upset at the idea of signing top tier players in lieu of drafting them will be begging to trade down instead of drafting top tier players in the draft? I imagine it's a big overlap, the Huddle has such a big "nothing should ever happen, never do anything" contingent. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, rodeo said:

How many of the people upset at the idea of signing top tier players in lieu of drafting them will be begging to trade down instead of drafting top tier players in the draft? I imagine it's a big overlap, the Huddle has such a big "nothing should ever happen, never do anything" contingent. 

IMO there are only a handful of top tier players in this draft.  But the 2nd tier is really really strong.  So a trade back to me is preferred as again IMO you are getting the same quality player at 19 as you would in the top half of the 2nd.   We can hopefully get a another pick and maybe someone is stupid enough give us a 27 first.

[ECHornet]

2 hours ago, frankw said:

This guy up late pooing posts over Dan Morgan talking about others whining lol

You gonna throw down over your favorite GM too if anyone dares to say anything that could be perceived as critical? Folks like you used to behave the same way over Scott Fitterer. How'd that work out?????

I’ll gladly admit if/when I’m wrong, but I don’t mind calling out the constant negativity. A select few in here are so consistently pessimistic, you’d think they were trolling fans of rival teams. 
 

We’re young in key areas and won our division. Made the playoffs in Dave & Dans second year getting after it. It seems we’re building it the right way. Just tired of seeing all of the complaining. Find something to get excited about with the franchise. There are plenty of options to choose from at the moment. 

[Jon Snow]

38 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

Too many holes just for the draft, no?

You don't need to fix everything this offseason. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

I’ll gladly admit if/when I’m wrong, but I don’t mind calling out the constant negativity. A select few in here are so consistently pessimistic, you’d think they were trolling fans of rival teams. 
 

We’re young in key areas and won our division. Made the playoffs in Dave & Dans second year getting after it. It seems we’re building it the right way. Just tired of seeing all of the complaining. Find something to get excited about with the franchise. There are plenty of options to choose from at the moment. 

Have you bought your NFC South shirt yet?

[strato]

Yep. What Mr C said. We have alignment.  
 

I guess at 8 taking true BPA made a lot of sense.  It is unlikely that we’ll be looking at the same gap between need and BPA at 19. Be a little easier to pass and trade down and match our value to our needs. IMO. I care very little about having a shiny 1st round TE, give me a tackle or help the defense. 

[frankw]

8 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

I’ll gladly admit if/when I’m wrong, but I don’t mind calling out the constant negativity. A select few in here are so consistently pessimistic, you’d think they were trolling fans of rival teams. 
 

We’re young in key areas and won our division. Made the playoffs in Dave & Dans second year getting after it. It seems we’re building it the right way. Just tired of seeing all of the complaining. Find something to get excited about with the franchise. There are plenty of options to choose from at the moment. 

There are things to be optimistic about certainly but there are also things that we should absolutely be as realistic as possible about to avoid setting ourselves up for heartbreak.

As far as right now I say talk to me after the draft. We can chase all the free agents we want. Drafting well is the only way back to relevance and legitimate competition for the playoffs and beyond.

Edited 27 minutes ago by frankw

[*FreeFua*]

17 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

A Spotrac guy on Twitter is quoting 4 year 85 million deal

Yep Lloyd is going to a minimum of 20 million per and that’s an absolute disaster of a contract to sign up for 

Jags were often taking him off the field on obvious passing downs on 3rd down. Not a lot of games where he plays even 90% of the snaps

A big reason his cover score on PFF is so high because he often would go take the RB in the flats on 1st and 2nd down

If you’re paying a linebacker 20+ mill he sure as hell better be able to cover downfield and based on the Jags deployment of him that doesn’t seem to be the case