Tony Pauline: Panthers will strongly consider Kenyon Sadiq if he’s there @19

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, csx said:

If offense you grab your RT of the next 10 years not a TE in name only.

It would be tough to draft a non starter in round 1, but the benefit down the road would be nice...

[csx]

19 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It would be tough to draft a non starter in round 1, but the benefit down the road would be nice...

The chances are that start games. We had different starters almost every week on the OL last year 

[PleaseCutStewart]

16 hours ago, Basbear said:

I think its 1.49, but I will the the official time and numbers(he tore it up).

 

Besides his frame, he's top .000001% 

But can he block edges?? what's his route tree?? those are the issues. 

personally I feel he should be in the discussion, among 4/5 others. Who knows the new hire Darrel bevell may change the offense system some, I hope he does......

No (and will probably never be an inline TE). Capable blocker against safeties, corners, and lighter LBs, but no chance he can block down linemen or stronger LBs.

His route tree is running down the seams and screen passes (from his tape at Oregon). So pretty much nonexistent.

[SetfreexX]

17 hours ago, PootieNunu said:

Lets blow another pick on offense for us to still put up bottom third of the league numbers. 

We havent used a 1st round pick on D since 2021 its time for that to end unless a great OT drops to us. 

 

Philips, and Lloyd were first round picks. They are proven, and were just added via cap versus picks.

Obviously the offense still needs to catch-up to other NFL teams.

[XClown1986]

The positions, as I see it, that we are zeroing in on in the first three rounds are:

- OT

- CB

- DL

I strongly believe we will be walking away with some combination of those positions in Rounds 1 - 3. 

I was hopeful that we might be looking at LB or S, but I don't think that's the case. 

Right now, I'd love to get:

Round 1: OT Caleb Lomu (I think he has the traits to be a top tier LT in the NFL)

Round 2: S AJ Haulcy (This guy would transform our defense. He's a monster.)

Round 3: DT Domonique Orange 

 

[ForJimmy]

48 minutes ago, csx said:

The chances are that start games. We had different starters almost every week on the OL last year 

Yeah but regardless your 1st round pick would be a depth player year 1.

[strato]

9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah but regardless your 1st round pick would be a depth player year 1.

I think there is a good chance a tackle would play a lot this year.  

[mrcompletely11]

11 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah but regardless your 1st round pick would be a depth player year 1.

Which we literally dont have any at the the moment.  I wont cry if we go tackle at 19 but man I would love to get a sick Dlineman or corner if one falls

[csx]

32 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah but regardless your 1st round pick would be a depth player year 1.

I personally dont care at all about that. Like Mccaffrey and Thomas Davis and Burns and Stewart and D'Angelo. What matters is the career.

 

But chances are, like I said, they start a good number of games.

[micnificent28]

Just looking at the free agent moves.. I can't see tackle in the first round. Sure it's possible,but you sign the best tackle available in walker, you sign stone, you have Ickey returning at some people and who's to say they don't bring back say brady Christensen or so. That said that's a lot of tackles your pay and all of them can't start.

Your not drafting a guy who can't start Day 1. And if healthy walker and Moton are your day 1 starters.. that leaves us at tight end safety center(there isnt one in the first I don't think) DL and nickel which aren't that big a need and safety 

[firefox1234]

I still think we go DL/DB in the first. I don’t think the good Tackles will fall to 19(including Lomu), and there will be an early run on them in the top 15.

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah but regardless your 1st round pick would be a depth player year 1.

Right now our only depth at T was cut from the worst offensive line in the NFL and we have nothing for next year except 1 year left on Moton, who already admittedly has knee concerns, though he minimizes them, which I  would too for over 40m bucks.

You have to draft for the future as well as the present. Being short sighted is why we ended up paying 2 guards 150m instead of drafting them when they were sitting right in front of us to take. If we end up paying Bryce 50-60M per season, we're going to need some guys on rookie contracts. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

31 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Just looking at the free agent moves.. I can't see tackle in the first round. Sure it's possible,but you sign the best tackle available in walker, you sign stone, you have Ickey returning at some people and who's to say they don't bring back say brady Christensen or so. That said that's a lot of tackles your pay and all of them can't start.

Your not drafting a guy who can't start Day 1. And if healthy walker and Moton are your day 1 starters.. that leaves us at tight end safety center(there isnt one in the first I don't think) DL and nickel which aren't that big a need and safety 

Icky is no guarantee to ever return to football, plus his salary is already 100% guaranteed. He's on the books no matter what. BC is coming off an Achilles injury and played much better at guard than he ever did at tackle, not to mention, Achilles is usually a 2 year recovery to full performance level. BC would be on a very low cost prove it deal. He only made 2.8m last year anyway.

You really want to put a tackle with a busted wheel, one coming off a major knee injury, or a guy that can't crack the Raiders roster on Bryce's blind side if Walker gets injured? 

[ForJimmy]

9 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Right now our only depth at T was cut from the worst offensive line in the NFL and we have nothing for next year except 1 year left on Moton, who already admittedly has knee concerns, though he minimizes them, which I  would too for over 40m bucks.

You have to draft for the future as well as the present. Being short sighted is why we ended up paying 2 guards 150m instead of drafting them when they were sitting right in front of us to take. If we end up paying Bryce 50-60M per season, we're going to need some guys on rookie contracts. 

I guess there is some confusion here.  Picking an OT in the first probably isn't happening unless there is someone that drops to our spot.  We absolutely need to draft an OT in this draft for depth/future, but signing Walker gives us the luxury of taking one in the mid rounds who might not be ready to start right away.  I also wouldn't be surprised if we sign BC for a reasonable contract for depth once we clear up some space.  There seems to be mutual interest there.  Leashes are just too short in the NFL for a GM to draft a player that wouldn't be an immediate impact player in the 1st round unless there is huge value.  We also need a C in this draft to learn behind our one year rental as well.  Again I don't see this happening in the 1st, but mid to late could work there.  Ideally we draft a C and future RT to take over for Moton after this year for our OL.  Then we can decided between Walker/Icky (depending on recovery) for future LT.