what does Bryce's 2026 season need to look like for you to be oaky with extending him?

[Khyber53]

10 wins, 30 TDs, 10 INT. 

It's a stat line that says he's made it.

Below there and well, then he's not going to get you any deeper into the playoffs. Better than that? I mean, you'd have to take it at face value and think he's grown into the role.

We've got to remember that it took Cam like four years to get the team to the Super Bowl. And he was a much, much bigger guy with a rocket launcher arm. Not every QB comes out born like that. 

Of course, it only took Jake one afternoon in the hot Tampa sun to break loose from the nobodies and to a Super Bowl trajectory. That just proves that experts judging someone on their first four years in the league are sometimes incredibly fuging wrong about a QB. Just saying.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Khyber53 said:

10 wins, 30 TDs, 10 INT. 

It's a stat line that says he's made it.

Below there and well, then he's not going to get you any deeper into the playoffs. Better than that? I mean, you'd have to take it at face value and think he's grown into the role.

We've got to remember that it took Cam like four years to get the team to the Super Bowl. And he was a much, much bigger guy with a rocket launcher arm. Not every QB comes out born like that. 

Of course, it only took Jake one afternoon in the hot Tampa sun to break loose from the nobodies and to a Super Bowl trajectory. That just proves that experts judging someone on their first four years in the league are sometimes incredibly fuging wrong about a QB. Just saying.

Bryce is out of runway.   He needs to get it done this year (whatever that means) or we move on.  Which is why the 5th year option was fuging stupid

[JawnyBlaze]

For starters, more 300+ games than <200 games. It’s not just about stats though, the main thing is getting better at decision making and accuracy. Stop making passes hard for receivers to catch, throw with better timing, throw them open, hit them in stride, stop making them reach behind or down low. Just be better. Significantly. 

[45catfan]

22 hours ago, NAS said:

3,700 yards + passing

25 -30 passing TDs

> 5 rushing TDs

< 15 INTs

 > 90 passer rating

no costly fumbles

continue clutch performances and lead this team to another division title and a playoff win  

The first 3 stats, I agree.  INTs need to be 10 or less and passer rating hovering around 100.  Combined stats, that would make him a top 10 QB.  That is what Bryce HAS TO BE to get an extension for me. Why would we extend a QB that's not a top 10 QB?  That screams 'we embrace mediocrity' by the front office if Bryce shakes out by season's end with a stat line to be, say, QB 16 League-wide and they hand him a nice shiny new deal.  

[rebelrouser]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Which is why the 5th year option was fuging stupid

If he lays a big fat egg this year, that fifth year in '27 with him making 26.5M is going to be pretty awkward. I guess we could plan on him starting the year while LaNorris settles in. I would rather that be a veteran though.   

[TLGPanthersFan]

12 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

If he lays a big fat egg this year, that fifth year in '27 with him making 26.5M is going to be pretty awkward. I guess we could plan on him starting the year while LaNorris settles in. I would rather that be a veteran though.   

It wouldn’t be the first time a player has signed his 5th and then was cut before he played it. Which is what I think the Panthers should do if we draft a QB in 2027. 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

It wouldn’t be the first time a player has signed his 5th and then was cut before he played it. Which is what I think the Panthers should do if we draft a QB in 2027. 

I dont recall that happening to a qb but my memory has been crap the past few years

[Navy_football]

Time to hit 4000 yards and 30 TDs (including rushing). I don't care about INTs anymore. That's a big part of the problem. He plays uber conservative until the game is on the line. Playing not to lose, instead of playing to win. Time to let it friggin rip from the get. The team can win with a pick or 2 if he has 3-4 TDs. Stop playing scared. 

But to be fair, his WRs have not been great. You all can bash about 1st round picks and O-line cap all you want. 

Chuba as your #1 RB his entire career. 

Adam Thielen as your best WR for 2 of 3 seasons is ridiculous. Then a rookie as your best in the 3rd season. Legette is not a 1st round talent. Probably closer to a 4th if you compare him to Brazzel this year. Coker has been a walking injury report. Nothing else to really speak of at WR or TE. Jimmy Horn has potential, but he is not an NFL starter yet.

Oline has been better as run blockers than pass blockers. Ickey has always been so-so as a pass blocking LT. Center has been a revolving door for 3 years. Damien Lewis has been as marketed. Hunt is a great run blocker but an ok pass blocker - when healthy. Moton has been solid at RT. Biggest problem with the oline has been depth. When someone went down, their replacement became a glaring weakness. Overall a good but not great unit the last 2 years. 2023 was a ish show. Nothing else to say. 

Not one game breaker, take it to the house offensive weapon since DJ Moore. Hopefully we get a little of that from Brazzell. 

Either way, in his 4th season, it doesn't matter. You have to be able to overcome whatever comes your way. First 3 seasons with a young supporting cast is defendable. Can't use that anymore though. 3rd year in the offense. 3rd year with the same HC. 

 

[TLGPanthersFan]

41 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I dont recall that happening to a qb but my memory has been crap the past few years

Baker was traded before he played his 5th year. 
RGIII was cut before playing his 5th year. So it is rare but it happens. 

[PootieNunu]

55 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Time to hit 4000 yards and 30 TDs (including rushing). I don't care about INTs anymore. That's a big part of the problem. He plays uber conservative until the game is on the line. Playing not to lose, instead of playing to win. Time to let it friggin rip from the get. The team can win with a pick or 2 if he has 3-4 TDs. Stop playing scared. 

But to be fair, his WRs have not been great. You all can bash about 1st round picks and O-line cap all you want. 

Chuba as your #1 RB his entire career. 

Adam Thielen as your best WR for 2 of 3 seasons is ridiculous. Then a rookie as your best in the 3rd season. Legette is not a 1st round talent. Probably closer to a 4th if you compare him to Brazzel this year. Coker has been a walking injury report. Nothing else to really speak of at WR or TE. Jimmy Horn has potential, but he is not an NFL starter yet.

Oline has been better as run blockers than pass blockers. Ickey has always been so-so as a pass blocking LT. Center has been a revolving door for 3 years. Damien Lewis has been as marketed. Hunt is a great run blocker but an ok pass blocker - when healthy. Moton has been solid at RT. Biggest problem with the oline has been depth. When someone went down, their replacement became a glaring weakness. Overall a good but not great unit the last 2 years. 2023 was a ish show. Nothing else to say. 

Not one game breaker, take it to the house offensive weapon since DJ Moore. Hopefully we get a little of that from Brazzell. 

Either way, in his 4th season, it doesn't matter. You have to be able to overcome whatever comes your way. First 3 seasons with a young supporting cast is defendable. Can't use that anymore though. 3rd year in the offense. 3rd year with the same HC. 

 

Tired of the excuses for this guy. 

Let's make excuses for the other players, maybe the WRs suck because Bryce won't let them go make plays. 

It's funny how Bryce passing stats have looked basically the same every season despite him getting more help added each year. 

He is not it and the majority of us knew this after his first couple of games. 

[Khyber53]

5 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Bryce is out of runway.   He needs to get it done this year (whatever that means) or we move on.  Which is why the 5th year option was fuging stupid

If he does manage to do it, will you shut up about him?

If he doesn't do it, I'm going to wish him well in the back-up QB roll he'll fall into somewhere and be looking forward to our next attempt at answering the QB question.