Our worse defense ever?

[thunderraiden]

Someone thats been here since 1995 clue me in plz. I started watching preseason 2003 (not when we started winning, i didnt watch football prior to 2003). Is this the worse defense in Carolina Panther history (I could ask NFL history but I'm afraid of the answer)

[Jangler]

I think so, I can't remember a season when any team with any no name RB was able to run on the Panthers this way.

Probably can find more in depth stats than this, but it does show the contrast in the seasons.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car/

[KillerKat]

According to that...

1999 offense + 2002 defense = Super Bowl

And the 2001 defense slightly is worse than the current one. That's weird because I remember the games being close back then. I think we loss like 7 games by a TD or less? And it wasn't because of our offense.

[Grammer]

According to that...

1999 offense + 2002 defense = Super Bowl

And the 2001 defense slightly is worse than the current one. That's weird because I remember the games being close back then. I think we loss like 7 games by a TD or less? And it wasn't because of our offense.

aside from the Titans debacle, all of our games have been pretty close

[Achilles]

Remember the year of Steve Beurlein and the team finished 8-8. I think it was 1999. The offense was a passing machine, but the defense was swiss cheese. They couldn't stop anyone. Our defense in 2004 was atrocius until Mark Fields and others stepped up and turned things around. In 2001 the defense lost 4th quarter leads at least 3 or 4 times.

In all of these cases the teams were affected by injuries, scheme, personnel, effort, skill (or lack thereof), luck, and desire.

However, none of those defensive sides were worse than our current situation. Right now the scheme is just a poor fit for our personnel and teams are just picking us apart. Detroit completely dominated our red zone passing defense (which had been a strength for so long)to the tune of 50 points! We were up 17! We were up 13 on GB and pissed that away, too. We were up on NO...RR pissed that W right away.

I don't think I've ever seen a defense (and team in general) so poorly coached. I must be honest about that. It has been truly horrifying. As fun as the offense is to watch, this team is losing every lead. Ron Rivera doesn't know how to win on offense or defense.

I'll say it. It's at least as bad as Seifert in the 1-15 season. At least as bad, if not the worst of all time.

[Cyberjag]

I don't know if it's the worst ever, I kind of feel like it is but don't have the energy to go look through stats. With that said, in my personal opinion it's certainly been the most disappointing.

Watching Denver's massive improvement on that side of the ball doesn't hep either...

[Mother Grabber]

It seemed like they scored a TD every time they touched the ball last weekend.

[Cape Fear Cat]

I don't have any numbers to back it up, but having watched them since 1995, I can't think of a worse one.

[Khyber53]

It's definitely the most disheartening defense we've ever fielded, both statistically and for the long line of walking wounded that head each week to IR. Even Peyton Manning couldn't put enough points on the board to protect a lead with the defensive efforts we've shown.

[BIGH2001]

Definitely the least talented. The 2001 defense at least had Dan Morgan, Jenkins and Rucker.

[Snake]

Just remember guys Hurney has a plan!!!!!

[CBDellinger]

It seemed like they scored a TD every time they touched the ball last weekend.

I think they did on 7 straight possessions...

:sad:

[rayzor]

yeah...can't really be sugar coated. it's the worst.

they'll turn around and they'll become dominant again...just not this year.

too many key missing pieces.

too young and undisciplined (aside form the penalties, they're just missing assignments and "freelancing").

too little time in the system.

too little consistency in the lineup. the thing is in constant flux as they try to fill holes and weaknesses.

it should shake out in the offseason.

[panthers55]

Instead of looking at just points or yards surrendered I looked at which team gave up the most second half leads or which gave the most points in the money quarter between 2001 and 2011.

IN 2011 we have been leading or were ahead at some point in the second half in 9 out of 10 games. Of those games we lost, we blew leads in 7 of those 8 games or 87.5%. We blew leads in the fourth quarter in 6 of those 8 games or 75%.

Comparatively in 2001, we were leading or were ahead at some point in the second half in 10 out of 16 games. Of those 10 games we blew leads in 8 of those games in the second half or 80% and 6 of those 8 in the fourth quarter or 75%.

Don't know what the hell that means except they were both bad. Maybe the difference is that we were in more blowouts in 2001 where this year we have been in as many close games blowing fourth quarter leads in 10 games as we did all of 2001.