The more Rivera talks, the more I worry

[SCP]

Rivera's issues for me is not scheming and gameplanning, it is game management.

Game management and his love affair with a pudgy, square shaped Tongain from Stanford.

[rayzor]

Does it matter how many plays you have? The more plays you have the more plays your opponent has.

You may score more points but so will your opponent

I am more worried about efficiency.

one of the biggest excuses given as to why we didn't score more (in addition to the mistakes) was the lack of possessions we had in the second half. we know that we took longer between each snap than we did last year against them, even though the coaching staff said the goal of streamlining everything was to get the ball snapped quicker.

 

we tried ball/clock control and it backfired on us and left us with too few possessions/chances to score.

 

seahawks had 34 plays run in the second half and had possession for 16:25 of the half.

 

meanwhile we had only 21 plays run in the 2nd half while we had the ball for 13:35 of the half. that's 1.5 plays per minute compared to about 2 plays per minute.

 

i'm worried about effiency as well. we need to be efficient with the effort that we make and also with the way we use the clock. i didn't see a sense of urgency and even though we had the lead for a good bit of the game, we still needed to score more.

 

did it cost us the game? by itself, no. but it played a part.

 

if we want more chances to score, we need to give ourselves more opportunities. the defense is solid enough, but it needs to get off the field quicker. the offense just flat needs to pick up the pace because you have to count on the other team scoring more. you can't count on your defense being perfect. you have to plan on/for failure and multiple mistakes because more than likely it's going to happen.

 

[rayzor]

Why do you strawman creators automatically assume that those of us that would like to play faster than a tortoise would only be satisfied with a Chip Kelly pace?

lol it's not madden

/strawman argument.

[wine-o and cheese-doodle]

Fast pace slow pace any pace, Shula will have a decent game plan that will work for half a game. He will fail to adjust the second half while the other team makes changes that will put them at an advantage. Our D will on some days give us the victory but not on others. Meanwhile we'll hear how great the O is for scoring just enuff points to lose.

[Growl]

[bleys]

the main objective is to keep the defense on their toes.  Give them more time to analyze the nuances of your offense and you're just as likely to go 3 and out.

 

it works both ways..

 

 

I'm sure Ron understands that, right?  

 

 

 

 

 

 

right?

[Chief Keek]

I got a feeling you won't have to worry about what Rivera says after this season. Gettleman didn't come here to settle for just good enough.

[Zod]

I'd settle for good enough at this point

[Fox007]

Hey Rivera don't you have another timeout to call when the other team is trying to rush onto the field and kick the game winning FG?

 

Just another coordinator that should stick to what he's good at...leave the head coaching to those who are capable.

[CRA]

Fast pace slow pace any pace, Shula will have a decent game plan that will work for half a game. He will fail to adjust the second half while the other team makes changes that will put them at an advantage. Our D will on some days give us the victory but not on others. Meanwhile we'll hear how great the O is for scoring just enuff points to lose.

Even just evaluating his Carolina time....it is tough to knock Shula's ability to gameplan (as it was solid) or his ability to adjust in the. 2nd half....he only had 3 drives one of which was a game winning one Williams screwed up (neither of the other 2 were 3 and outs).

If you use his career history than yeah....but last week was more on the players. Newton not making throws he should of, drops, and fumbles.

[Peppers90 NC]

an offensive-minded coach doesnt worry about this, while a defensive-minded coach does.  the offense guy doesnt worry because he has confidence in his offense, where rivera doesnt really seem to have enough.

[teeray]

one of the biggest excuses given as to why we didn't score more (in addition to the mistakes) was the lack of possessions we had in the second half. we know that we took longer between each snap than we did last year against them, even though the coaching staff said the goal of streamlining everything was to get the ball snapped quicker.

we tried ball/clock control and it backfired on us and left us with too few possessions/chances to score.

seahawks had 34 plays run in the second half and had possession for 16:25 of the half.

meanwhile we had only 21 plays run in the 2nd half while we had the ball for 13:35 of the half. that's 1.5 plays per minute compared to about 2 plays per minute.

i'm worried about effiency as well. we need to be efficient with the effort that we make and also with the way we use the clock. i didn't see a sense of urgency and even though we had the lead for a good bit of the game, we still needed to score more.

did it cost us the game? by itself, no. but it played a part.

if we want more chances to score, we need to give ourselves more opportunities. the defense is solid enough, but it needs to get off the field quicker. the offense just flat needs to pick up the pace because you have to count on the other team scoring more. you can't count on your defense being perfect. you have to plan on/for failure and multiple mistakes because more than likely it's going to happen.

If we go faster and have more plays, then conversely the other team will have more plays as well. Even if we had two more possessions or like Buffalo who had the exact same points per possession we did, then Seattle likely scores more too.

I'm not directing this next part directly at you Ray or, but some of you forget that their are two teams on the field. We as fans look at things through a vacuum of just the Panthers.

If we play faster and have more possessions and score 14 points but Seattle scores 16 points we still lose.

It cuts both ways. Picking up the pace wouldn't mean that Seattle's stats would have just stayed stagnant. They likely would have scored more points too.

And this is coming from a guy that wanted Chip Kelly here.

[Mr. Scot]

he's right.

In more ways than one.

If your defense is facing an up-tempo offense, one of the best things your offense can do for them is have A nice, long sustained drive to give them some rest.

Won't surprise me at all if a lot of teams facing the Eagles this season have their offense take a 'methodical' approach.

[tiger7_88]

If we go faster and have more plays, then conversely the other team will have more plays as well. Even if we had two more possessions or like Buffalo who had the exact same points per possession we did, then Seattle likely scores more too.

Well THAT is what you build a great defense for... to stop the opposing offense on their extra plays.

I'll repeat it again: You build a great defense so that you can be AGGRESSIVE on offense, not SCARED.

"I afraid I'll make a mistake" has NEVER been the philosophy of winners.