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Don't look now, Panthers are second in their division


Zod
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I agree. This game Sunday is a must win. We've got a chance to salvage this season and build on the momentum from week three. It's really now or never. Lose and we all but concede the division to the saints and any shot to make a playoff run....

 

 

UGH, we really should be 3-0 right now, it's sickening isn't it? :/

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We've reached the point where we have enough talent on this team to beat the lesser teams in the NFL. We're looking at a stretch of games that we should win, just like at the end of last season.

 

What worries me is that one, or a handful of players, can cause us to lose a game we should win. Josh Norman is the prime suspect, as his horrible play against KC last season, and the Bills this season, caused losses. Armond Smith is another guy who worries me. He kicked a Raven player in the crotch and was ejected, and was so absent minded this season that he ran out of bounds twice in a row drawing penalties both times. I'm not going to go through the full list of players who could screw up our chances to beat some of these lesser teams, but there are enough of them to really worry me.

 

Ron PLEASE coach up our screw up players and make them understand they'll be cut if they cause a fight or play without thinking.

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