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Clinton Portis on WFNZ yesterday....

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Before I switch over to airplane mode, I thought I'd mention this little nugget. Did anybody hear Clinton Portis on WFNZ Primetime yesterday? He is a great listen and is a weekly guest with Moose on Kroeger's show. He seems to think Cam will test the free agent market because of the state of our franchise. Mentioned St Louis/L.A. Rams as a great fit. Discuss.

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I have been wondering the same thing lately. You put Cam on most teams and you instantly have an upgrade and much better team. That includes every team in our conference. He is surrounded by junk. We have about five quality players on offense with him . Although our running backs are quality they require lineman to open holes for them. We don't have that.

Gettleman has this offseason to surround Cam with some more talent or I think Cam would be silly not to test free agency.

On the bright side if most of the offseason talent involves a revamped offensive line my whining like a little b$&ch is all for naught.

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He is retarded.

You don't think Cam notices the talent that Dalton, Capernick and Luck has surrounding them on the offensive side of the ball?

We are not being honest with ourselves if we do not look at things from an outsiders point of view.

In the end I think he stays, but this offseason will require some touh decisions and retooling of talent.

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The state of our franchise is first place in the NFC South coming off a divisional championship.

If Portis looked around he'd see that franchise qb's rarely leave the team that drafts them. On the rare occasion both parties split it's typically because of chronic injuries.

Yeah, St. Louis. Because if there's any model for how to build around a quarterback and win championships in the last decade, it's St. Louis.

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Why is everyone in a rush to watch Cam leave?  Cam is going to get PAID here.  The business side of things is that we have to get the cap squared away.  In the next two years (Which Cam is UNDER CONTRACT FOR!!!), we're going to free up a bunch of cash for him, Luke and whoever else.

 

We're having a bad year.  This is the NFL, it happens for most teams.  How often to Franchise QBs leave teams?  What are the circumstances?  Do those circumstances match?  Also, why would the Panthers let Cam walk?  That's why there is a franchise tag, which he would be stuck with regardless.

 

Cam will be a Panther, unless he completely implodes.  I don't see that happening, even with the weak supporting cast this year.

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