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Was Gettleman the right GM choice? How long to stay with him?

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I'm interested in what everyone thinks.

For me, I just am having trouble looking at that oline and secondary and believing he is.

I've never been what he was with the VP of Pro Personnel, I believe that was the title, but like almost everyone on here I could have told him the tackle situation was not going to work along with Harper and Decloud...there just had to be midrange talent available better than this.

Then the whole Smith situation and extending Rivera and his staff

Even some of his draft picks are head scratchers.

As a PSL holder my tickets are virtually worthless again.

The team is just spectacularly bad. It's embarrassing and I'm not sure it needed to be. How they won 3 games is beyond me and make no mistake even if they should manage to beat lesser teams so what...is that what we want....A team that can't even compete against better teams? Isnt that what we had the later years of the Fox era?

For me the deal breakers are the tackle situations and Harper/Decloud. I just don't believe in him

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He is drafting very well, thus far. Still early for results, but the young returns looking great. Remember he only had 5 picks(league low) in his first GM draft. He hit on 3, one derailed by injuries, and the other just a dud it happens. 2014, five out of six have shown their not complete waste. He's done great at UDFAs, about three per year. That's cheap labor and their success brings more Wanting to come here.

So far he's getting a push for free agency, 2013 was good as 2014 is bad. Again a little unfair judging here, cause I'm about 99.9996480457% sure if dave knew the hardy deal..... he would have took that 13 and got some OL help. Plus the other FAs wouldn't look as bad.

Handling the cap, this is my opinion- he's done fine, not super great. I believe just about any other GM would have done similar moves. People forget the herniays cap guy remains on staff and even if total different GM came in, a plan was already in place.

My big beef is the handling of smitty, no problem with the cut(you can t pay him 7 this yr and 10 next year at his age, given his actions), just the circus that happen.

I will know better at seasons end, plus the panthers are still in cap hell. Starting 2016, with no/dead money, no terrible contracts(I hope), it will allow him more resources to make the panthers a winning/playoff team year after year.

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let's see what he does next year.

rivera....not really interested in seeing that.

i don't think gettleman had any idea it would be this bad. i want to see what he does to correct course.

In fairness it would not be this bad if Hardy was on the field. That was something totally unexpected.

This franchise needed to hit the reset button from the Fox/Hurney era and I'm glad Gettleman is doing that as painful as this season has been. He's produced some very good drafts and struck gold with the role playing free agents last season.

On the other hand, were the Hardy situation to come up under the Hurney regime, we would be stuck with Hardy under a long term deal, paid long term deals for guys like Mitchell and Captain to get exposed because of his absence and we would still be looking at the same type of season with a bleaker cap sheet.

I trust that Gettleman will do the right thing and shake up the coaching staff and offensive line this offseason in addition to making even more cuts that will unearth some desperately needed cap space.

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Being a devoted Carolina Panthers fan,I want to have faith that Gettleman has a long range plan in mind. I don't think Richardson would just let him be a lose cannon and have an outlandish plan that had no chace to Succeed. This supposed plan of his may take another year or two, as fans we have to sit back and see if this assumption is correct.,even though it's nerve racking to do so.

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For someone who has done so good in the draft?well tell me then, why we can't stop the run or put pressure on the QB and heaven forbids a sack,jeeeezus,

btw,two second rounders and one first rounder have already been invested on the dL alone thus far.

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I say yes. I think he has a formula that is fairly clear. He seems to fill holes with 1 yr deals and build through the draft. I think drafting is his strong suit. Time will ultimately tell but look at the draft picks we've had these last 2 years and compare that to the years of Hurney.  I think the secondary pans out a little differently if Hardy is there and there is some hope with the young talent there (Norman and Bene - Not really any data from Boston).

 

The o-line has been his biggest blunder so far. But yet, any hope that we have on the line is directly because of his drafting/rookie signings. 

 

 

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For someone who has done so good in the draft?well tell me then, why we can't stop the run or put pressure on the QB and heaven forbids a sack,jeeeezus,

btw,two second rounders and one first rounder have already been invested on the dL alone thus far.

After QB, the smart people agree DL is the next in terms of need/want/value(rookie contracts). I didn't like the back-2-back DT picks is 2013, but it proved to be the correct move. I said before the 2014 draft, gimme at least 2 OTs. Ozzie new some said after the top Five OTs, there is a huge drop off same thing dave said. I'm not going to bitach about UDFAs, even if there was about five.

Given hardy and cj, well both could be gone at seasons end. So the early pick, could easy be a starting DE. You cannt judge these young DL draft as finished products. Sure star is struggling, but short looks great.

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