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Bye Week Bordem - Jonathan Stewart's Value


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Sitting at 1-5 at the bye week has me questioning if the Panthers should be in buy or sell mode leading up to the November 1st trade deadline. We have seen the national writers and fans say the Panthers should go out and get Joe Thomas or Joe Haden, but their hasn't been much talk about the Panthers being sellers.

I've seen a few Huddlers suggest that given Stewart's injury history, that he could be post June-1 cut after this year to save some cap space. If this were to happen, the Panthers would add about  $3.5M in dead money for 2017-2018 and free up about $6.25M in cap space in 2017 and $1M in 2017.

But what if a team like the Packers or another RB needy team come calling, looking for an upgrade at RB? Trading Stewart now (I'm not taking into effect this year's dead money or cap savings) would add about $5M to dead money for 2017-2018 and free up about $4.75M in 2017 and $1M in 2018.

With all of that said, looking at the figures, what would you consider Stewart's return value in a trade scenario? Would a 3rd round pick be sufficient enough for the difference of the $1.5M in dead money/cap savings in trading his vs cutting him? What would a realistic return be? Does the staff have that much confidence in CAP to pull the trigger?

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I don't think the Panthers have enough trust in CAP to trade Stewart.  I think we will see a RB drafted in the first 3 rounds in the 2017 draft.  

But...If the Panthers continue to lose, I would like to see them get something out of Stewart because more than likely they are going to cut him due to cap reasons next year....I would take a 3rd rounder for him if I were making the decisions.  He will only continue to have injury issues as he gets older and he will be the 'dreaded 30' next year.  I think his best days are behind him.   

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3 hours ago, 15 said:

Stewart is going to be a Seahawk someday, would love to get something out of him. Michael and Rawls are a cheap alternative for them but if they're gonna try and make another SB run - they should trade for Stewart where he can finish his career at home with his family.

 

Stewart would fit right in with that Offense. Hey, if they are willing to give us something worthy of actually looking at? Why not?

 

That said. Stewy has a history of missing games. Not sure any team would be willing to give us anything worth-while in a trade.

 

And...trading Stewy might send the wrong signal. I am sure we are still interested in winning. Trading Stewy would undermine that philosophy.

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51 minutes ago, thennek said:

I don't think the Panthers have enough trust in CAP to trade Stewart.  I think we will see a RB drafted in the first 3 rounds in the 2017 draft.  

But...If the Panthers continue to lose, I would like to see them get something out of Stewart because more than likely they are going to cut him due to cap reasons next year....I would take a 3rd rounder for him if I were making the decisions.  He will only continue to have injury issues as he gets older and he will be the 'dreaded 30' next year.  I think his best days are behind him.   

 

Not to be "That guy", ah hellz, who am I kidding? I like being "That guy". But, we only have one more game until the trade deadline. Not sure how much more losing we can do in that time frame.

 

If some team was goofy enough to give us a 3rd? I'd take it. Let Cap, and Fozzy, get real good looks the rest of this year. Gives us a real opportunity to evaluate them. Bring in a real FB, run the Power I out of Pro Sets, and let's see what we have.

 

But realistically? We need Stewy in this Offense. So if you are going to trade him, you had better have a plan on replacing him.

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4 hours ago, NYPantherFan said:

Sitting at 1-5 at the bye week has me questioning if the Panthers should be in buy or sell mode leading up to the November 1st trade deadline. We have seen the national writers and fans say the Panthers should go out and get Joe Thomas or Joe Haden, but their hasn't been much talk about the Panthers being sellers.

I've seen a few Huddlers suggest that given Stewart's injury history, that he could be post June-1 cut after this year to save some cap space. If this were to happen, the Panthers would add about  $3.5M in dead money for 2017-2018 and free up about $6.25M in cap space in 2017 and $1M in 2017.

But what if a team like the Packers or another RB needy team come calling, looking for an upgrade at RB? Trading Stewart now (I'm not taking into effect this year's dead money or cap savings) would add about $5M to dead money for 2017-2018 and free up about $4.75M in 2017 and $1M in 2018.

With all of that said, looking at the figures, what would you consider Stewart's return value in a trade scenario? Would a 3rd round pick be sufficient enough for the difference of the $1.5M in dead money/cap savings in trading his vs cutting him? What would a realistic return be? Does the staff have that much confidence in CAP to pull the trigger?

Discuss...

I'm going to say.... if we got a 7th for him we would be the winners. He has been hurt since college and even though he is effective when healthy, he can't stay healthy. He Is the Romo of the RB world. Love the guy to death, but we need more reliability.

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