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Panthers WRs separate better than I thought

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Interesting information but I don't really see much value in this metric without more context since openness it's heavily influenced by playcalling and design. Feels like it would be more interesting/useful blended with something like release time per QB and depth of target and the Twitter response comments seem to agree. Maybe it already is and I'm just not aware of it.

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I read "separation at release" like separation at the line of scrimmage, which is different than getting separation in the route especially if it's a mid to deep route. I think these stats would also depend heavily on type of coverage we faced (man/zone). If they are only in man/press situations and we didn't face that kind of coverage much then it would skew these stats. 

Bottom line I don't think our receivers have any trouble getting off the line of scrimmage, I think they have trouble gaining separation in the route. Defenses probably gave our guys a free release in many situations because they knew they could catch up to them and it makes it easier to play the run. 

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The Lobo Grand Master

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Of course we improved since last year, KB is gone. It’s no coincidence that Buffalo is at the bottom. I don’t really buy being 8th. There were many instances where analyst complained we get no separation and are terrible off of breaks. Maybe the first couple games with KB were bad and I could see it improve throughout the season.

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2 minutes ago, CatMan72 said:

I read "separation at release" like separation at the line of scrimmage, which is different than getting separation in the route especially if it's a mid to deep route. I think these stats would also depend heavily on type of coverage we faced (man/zone). If they are only in man/press situations and we didn't face that kind of coverage much then it would skew these stats. 

Bottom line I don't think our receivers have any trouble getting off the line of scrimmage, I think they have trouble gaining separation in the route. Defenses probably gave our guys a free release in many situations because they knew they could catch up to them and it makes it easier to play the run. 

I read it as separation at the release of the ball

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How do you even quantify separation? 

 

This new PFF stat trend with football is annoying, makes people think they know more then they do. New flash : you have to watch a lot of tape of a specific player to be able to grade them out. Why do you think each team has a scouting dept that works year round? 

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Separation from our WR's was hit and miss at absolute best, I don't need statistics to tell me anything.

Another issue was WR's being completely oblivious to the fact our QB was scrambling in the pocket looking for someone, anyone to get open and come back to the ball. That should never happen at the professional level. I assume Norv will be a big help with things like this, at least I really hope so.

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Saca312 Experienced

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Well I mean it’s true with guys like Byrd Samuel and even Funchess out there we were far better in separation than 2016. Just everyone got hurt.

The same guy you’re quoting also noted we were dead last as the injuries piled up and we had no one who could separate.

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