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Gano signs 4 yr $17 Million w/ $9 Million Guaranteed

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2 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

4.25 a year isn’t bad Jesus, where was this same energy when we backed the truck full of money to Matt Kalils door. 

Had a broken foot in 2016 that hampered him, and had a much better 2017, fair deal for both sides

 Yes. Let’s bump that Matt Kalil signing thread. Wanna bet it is many of the same people complaining. And many of the same defending it.

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5 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

4.25 a year isn’t bad Jesus, where was this same energy when we backed the truck full of money to Matt Kalils door. 

Had a broken foot in 2016 that hampered him, and had a much better 2017, fair deal for both sides

Broken bone in his foot, not broken foot. And it happened in December so it only applied to the last 4 games.

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20 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ooohhh, I'm not sure I'd go that far.

I've seen enough that I still worry when he goes to kick a field goal. Extra points too.

All but about five of the kickers in the league don't cause their fans to worry each time they go out to kick. Extra points, too. 

But really, who is out there that's available, for under $5 mill a year and is a deadshot? Right. Gano is the guy for the moment. On to bigger issues and worries, like getting the personnel to make touchdowns rather than having to settle for field goals.

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1 minute ago, top dawg said:

Yes,  but what you're leaving is out is that on average Kasay kicked longer field goals than most,  and the amount was more than double what Graham Gano has kicked.  

In fact, he did not.

John Kasay, career stats:  40-49 yards 120 / 161 (74.5% make) . . . 50+ yards 42 / 83 (50.6% make)

Graham Gano, career stats:  40-49 yards 74 / 92 (80.4% make) . . . 50+ yards 17 / 31 (54.8% make)

You can't blame Gano for not having a 20 year career yet.  But comparing him to Kasay, he's actually slightly better from long range, not quite as good from medium and short.  Pick your poison I guess.

 

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2 minutes ago, BrianS said:

In fact, he did not.

John Kasay, career stats:  40-49 yards 120 / 161 (74.5% make) . . . 50+ yards 42 / 83 (50.6% make)

Graham Gano, career stats:  40-49 yards 74 / 92 (80.4% make) . . . 50+ yards 17 / 31 (54.8% make)

You can't blame Gano for not having a 20 year career yet.  But comparing him to Kasay, he's actually slightly better from long range, not quite as good from medium and short.  Pick your poison I guess.

 

Comparing him to Kasay is absurd.

You are conveniently omitting the fact that last year we didn't even let him attempt anything above 50. Kasay routinely boomed those with ease.

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Just now, TheRed said:

Comparing him to Kasay is absurd.

You are conveniently omitting the fact that last year we didn't even let him attempt anything above 50. Kasay routinely boomed those with ease.

I'm not omitting *anything*.  I'm showing actual career numbers.  Kickers can only go out and kick the field goals that the coach allows them to attempt.  The numbers show that Gano is more accurate than Kasay was on kicks more than 40 yards.

Kasay was a good kicker, one that probably cost us a Lombardi, but a good kicker.  Gano is no less so.  Statistically they are so close to identical that it's not even worth arguing.

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19 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Gano is the highest paid kicker in the league.  Let that sink in for a minute.

I don't think that is true.  Gostkowski makes more.  And J. Tucker has more guaranteed money.  

https://overthecap.com/position/kicker/

Within two years, Gano will likely be barely top 10 in pay for kickers.   Pay scales tend to escalate rapidly.  

 

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1 minute ago, BrianS said:

I'm not omitting *anything*.  I'm showing actual career numbers.  Kickers can only go out and kick the field goals that the coach allows them to attempt.  The numbers show that Gano is more accurate than Kasay was on kicks more than 40 yards.

Kasay was a good kicker, one that probably cost us a Lombardi, but a good kicker.  Gano is no less so.  Statistically they are so close to identical that it's not even worth arguing.

You couldn't have watched Kasay kick for us if you actually think Gano is the superior kicker overall. Also, lol @ the Super Bowl jab. Funny you trot that out while saying nothing about Gano missing a gimme on the road in the playoffs.

I think this person might honestly be related to Gano.

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Just now, TheRed said:

You couldn't have watched Kasay kick for us if you actually think Gano is the superior kicker overall. Also, lol @ the Super Bowl jab. Funny you trot that out while saying nothing about Gano missing a gimme on the road in the playoffs.

I think this person might honestly be related to Gano.

I don't know if Gano is the superior kicker overall.  Neither do you.  Not enough career evidence.

The point is that at this point of his career, Gano is on track to be a kicker of the same quality.

As far as Gano missing a "gimme in the playoffs", I did in fact address that by saying that Gano is not as good from close range as Kasay was, but superior from long range.  It's pretty simple.  The numbers are all there if you look at them.

Here, look for yourself:  

http://www.nfl.com/player/grahamgano/71309/careerstats

http://www.nfl.com/player/johnkasay/2501563/careerstats

 

Explain the massive statistical difference between the two.  Because I don't see it.

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One question for those who think this was a smart move.

 

If Gano reverts back to his career average, will you still think this was smart at seasons end, especially when we see we can't cut him until after the following?

 

 

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