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Wes Horton and Kyle Love


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3 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I know Wes is JAG but do you think we will re sign him if he comes back for close to vet minimum or do we let him walk no matter what? Also what about Love? I am surprised that he is still available at this point. 

There are still a lot of surprising DL still available. I mean, Suh and Ansah are still unsigned. I think after the first wave of free agency this year all the other teams were essentially happy to wait and see if they could land a guy in this deep DL class instead of paying a FA. Suh and Ansah are probably just wanting more $$$ or more years than teams are willing to offer them at their age. There will inevitably be some teams who don't have the draft fall their way for DL and they'll get signed.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There are still a lot of surprising DL still available. I mean, Suh and Ansah are still unsigned. I think after the first wave of free agency this year all the other teams were essentially happy to wait and see if they could land a guy in this deep DL class instead of paying a FA. Suh and Ansah are probably just wanting more $$$ or more years than teams are willing to offer them at their age. There will inevitably be some teams who don't have the draft fall their way for DL and they'll get signed.

 

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Both will be back unless they find a big payday elsewhere. Horton knows the system and is excellent as a run stopper. And there's no way RR is going to leave the Round Mound of Bring 'Em Down on the couch this season.

Both are lunchpail guys that come in and do their work, no fuss, no screw-ups. They are the kind of guys that never make the national coverage but real Panthers fans get to see these guys doing the hard work on a regular basis.

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Due to Love's age and the fact the DT depth is better than DE, Horton probably has the better chance of returning.  Love will be back only if nobody else is interested (which is highly doubtful) considering his diminishing role and tight cap space here in Carolina.  Being as thin as we are at DE, I'm fairly confident Horton will be offered a contract if he can't manage to land somewhere else.  Probably another 1-year deal for around the veteran minimum.

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On 4/13/2019 at 8:58 PM, AU-panther said:

With the depth of talent at DL in this year's draft some teams might be hesitant to sign anyone until after the draft.

Love is 32 and Horton is 29, and never been better than pretty good. Their agents' phones aren't ringing off the hook. That being said, Love played very well last year and Horton is a solid backup, especially against the run. I could see them both getting picked up next month. I hate to loose Love.

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