DT Gerald McCoy Will Visit The Panthers This Week

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

5 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

yea i have just one pregunta about him signing with us

 

We have like what..16..17m in cap space to work with?

[panthers55]

What is long term in the not for long league. Seems a 3 year contract is the most you get after you are in the league 9 years and aren't a quarterback.  Even if we resign Cam in 2 years I bet it won't be another 5 year deal.

[panthers55]

9 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

We have like what..16..17m in cap space to work with?

And first year cap hits are usually small since the bulk of their money is the signing bonus  and a small first year base salary. His cap hit could be as little as 7 million this year. 

[Verge]

We only need 8-9 million for him, I don't think he gets as much money as Suh, unless that's the point he is trying to make.

[Basbear]

Heres some juice

1. Like basically the whole Panther team McCoy is a big superhero fan. He's got TONS of memorabilia along with a Batman theme Rolls Royce. Panthers need a batman after having Superman, Spiderman, Captain America, Thor etc.

2. New coach Bruce Arians was not a fan of McCoys' mentality at all. McCoy has always been very polite to the enemy team during the game. Giving words of encouragement, helping up players, etc. 

3. Lastly, Bruce (who may leave at any point) didn't think McCoy would be a fit in the 3-4 defense.  Panthers are adding that element to the D and will play the Bucs at least 2 per year. 

Panthers has many former players living in/around the queen and along with the bits above have plenty to offer McCoy. 

 

[Basbear]

4 hours ago, The Huddler said:

OLB Irvin 1st round pick

MLB Thompson 1st round pick

MLB Kuechly 1st round pick

OLB Burns 1st round pick

DE Short 2nd round pick

NT Poe 1st round pick

DE Mccoy 1st round pick

 

Rotational DE Bulter 1st round pick

 

Ron Rivera Calling plays

Reid is a former 1st too. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

39 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Heres some juice

1. Like basically the whole Panther team McCoy is a big superhero fan. He's got TONS of memorabilia along with a Batman theme Rolls Royce. Panthers need a batman after having Superman, Spiderman, Captain America, Thor etc.

2. New coach Bruce Arians was not a fan of McCoys' mentality at all. McCoy has always been very polite to the enemy team during the game. Giving words of encouragement, helping up players, etc. 

3. Lastly, Bruce (who may leave at any point) didn't think McCoy would be a fit in the 3-4 defense.  Panthers are adding that element to the D and will play the Bucs at least 2 per year. 

Panthers has many former players living in/around the queen and along with the bits above have plenty to offer McCoy. 

 

Good stuff. And McCoy has always been a Cam fan, always said positive things about him. 

[Snake]

If he wants revenge he will sign here. 

[Trill OG]

Just to even get a meeting is a positive sign for a franchise moving forward. We would have never made this type of move with JR as the owner. Tepper is really going after the bigger names since his short stint at owner.

Hopefully we sign McCoy he can really help our defense. People forget just a few years ago he was the best DT in the game. Even now he is still a impact player, and on our Dline he would probably be our best player.

[The Huddler]

8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm not saying that we need a prime Earl Thomas back there, but at the same time, prime Earl Thomas is what allowed the rest of that Legion of Boom secondary to do what they did. 

and vice versa

 

he had exceptional talent with him in the secondary that rarely left him out to dry. Pressure was put on the QB, CBs knocked their man off course and stayed on them. He was allowed to let his skills shine plucking the ball out of the air. He had that confidence knowing his didn't have to make up and compensate for some other position lacking on the defense. Everyone else on that defense did their job and did it at an elite level allowing him to do his specific job. that defense fed off of each other

 

i feel a huge part of our woes in the secondary especially at FS was that position was asked to do too much. Pass rush wasn't there. BAD defensive playcaller. Threat of the run. that saftey net needed to be more than that to compensate for other other deficiencies. 

 

Im hopeful for gaulden, because as a green 3rd round rookie, he had a lot of responsibility with very little help. QBs had all day to throw, balls going deep, he had a whole lot of volume coming his way before he could truly settle in to the speed and nuance of the NFL. Gaulden is a confident and fiery guy who out of lack of experience, tried to do too much and got out if position. 

 

Norman wasnt a top pick and was also a confident fiery guy who often tried to do too much and found himself out if position early in his career.  Im glad he stuck around and had a opportunity to learn from his mistakes.  

 

Im hoping with gaulden, he gets an opportunity to learn from his mistakes, but also get an opportunity to play with a competent supporting cast.  Jackson, Bradberry, and Reid arent chumps.. and neither would our elite front 7 with Mccoy in the mix.. not to mention Rivera finally taking the reins and calling plays like he did for his ELITE chicago and san diego defenses  

 

Im not a betting man, but i feel the stars are aligning for the perfect archetypical "buy low" on a guy. if i could pick the next guy people sshit on to came out of nowhere and ball out, it would be Gaulden.  Anyone can look back and see what was, but not everyone can make accurate predictions, especially the the ones that aren't obvious  the "sleeper" predictions

 

Gaulden is my sleeper. 

 

And I think he is Hurneys too.  Anyone can make obvious decisions. Great GMs make a living taking huge risks through adversity and outside heat where not so obvious sleeper picks actually pan out and those risks end up with great reward

 

its a risk to throw Gaulden out there as the starter. It could burn us bad. But with the limited resources we have, if we can put those limited rescources into the right places, and have our risks turn into rewards with good production for little cost, thats how games are won. At least until its time to pay those players that are a boom for the buck and you cant pay everyone  (seattle) 

 

[The Huddler]

with limited resources, you put those resources into the critical positions you absolutely need. Not only for our team, but the whole NFL, defensive lineman and pass rushers get paid astronomically more than safeties. Theres a huge discrepancy for supply and demand between the two positions. Because with a great DL who can stop the run and rush the passer, you dont need a world beater back there as your safety net. In fact, a good supporting cast can make an average safety look good by not needing him to do too much

 

 

[uncfan888]

Get to the quarterback and don't let him have time to pick on the free safety.. Problem solved 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 hours ago, The Huddler said:

and vice versa

 

he had exceptional talent with him in the secondary that rarely left him out to dry. Pressure was put on the QB, CBs knocked their man off course and stayed on them. He was allowed to let his skills shine plucking the ball out of the air. He had that confidence knowing his didn't have to make up and compensate for some other position lacking on the defense. Everyone else on that defense did their job and did it at an elite level allowing him to do his specific job. that defense fed off of each other

 

i feel a huge part of our woes in the secondary especially at FS was that position was asked to do too much. Pass rush wasn't there. BAD defensive playcaller. Threat of the run. that saftey net needed to be more than that to compensate for other other deficiencies. 

 

Im hopeful for gaulden, because as a green 3rd round rookie, he had a lot of responsibility with very little help. QBs had all day to throw, balls going deep, he had a whole lot of volume coming his way before he could truly settle in to the speed and nuance of the NFL. Gaulden is a confident and fiery guy who out of lack of experience, tried to do too much and got out if position. 

 

Norman wasnt a top pick and was also a confident fiery guy who often tried to do too much and found himself out if position early in his career.  Im glad he stuck around and had a opportunity to learn from his mistakes.  

 

Im hoping with gaulden, he gets an opportunity to learn from his mistakes, but also get an opportunity to play with a competent supporting cast.  Jackson, Bradberry, and Reid arent chumps.. and neither would our elite front 7 with Mccoy in the mix.. not to mention Rivera finally taking the reins and calling plays like he did for his ELITE chicago and san diego defenses  

 

Im not a betting man, but i feel the stars are aligning for the perfect archetypical "buy low" on a guy. if i could pick the next guy people sshit on to came out of nowhere and ball out, it would be Gaulden.  Anyone can look back and see what was, but not everyone can make accurate predictions, especially the the ones that aren't obvious  the "sleeper" predictions

 

Gaulden is my sleeper. 

 

And I think he is Hurneys too.  Anyone can make obvious decisions. Great GMs make a living taking huge risks through adversity and outside heat where not so obvious sleeper picks actually pan out and those risks end up with great reward

 

its a risk to throw Gaulden out there as the starter. It could burn us bad. But with the limited resources we have, if we can put those limited rescources into the right places, and have our risks turn into rewards with good production for little cost, thats how games are won. At least until its time to pay those players that are a boom for the buck and you cant pay everyone  (seattle) 

 

I hope you're right.

[Devil Doc]

My Analysis,

He will sign for Carolina, cheaper than he has been offered, simply because, he likes our organization. He likes the area, and likes our team. He will sign with us.