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[stirs]

What will the worlds reaction to China be once this is all over?  Nobody has time to worry with it now, but do you think China will suffer economically by the world turning its back on them?

[BIGH2001]

Just now, stirs said:

What will the worlds reaction to China be once this is all over?  Nobody has time to worry with it now, but do you think China will suffer economically by the world turning its back on them?

I hope so.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

42 minutes ago, stirs said:

What will the worlds reaction to China be once this is all over?  Nobody has time to worry with it now, but do you think China will suffer economically by the world turning its back on them?

No.

[Happy Panther]

34 minutes ago, stirs said:

What will the worlds reaction to China be once this is all over?  Nobody has time to worry with it now, but do you think China will suffer economically by the world turning its back on them?

Doubtful. China sells cheap stuff and economically we and much of the world relies upon them. Starbucks had been hammered due to lack of business in China. But who knows with the current administration.

[Tbe]

1 hour ago, stirs said:

What will the worlds reaction to China be once this is all over?  Nobody has time to worry with it now, but do you think China will suffer economically by the world turning its back on them?

None of us can afford our lifestyles without cheap stuff from China. The sad reality is, China now holds most of the manufacturing expertise. We couldnt make a lot of things even if we wanted to. Not quickly anyway.

I do think we start making our own medicine and medical supplies though.

[cookinbrak]

If anything, travel restrictions need to be looked at after this.

Oh, and people that got on cruise ships knowing what was going on can look elsewhere for sympathy.

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, stirs said:

What will the worlds reaction to China be once this is all over?  Nobody has time to worry with it now, but do you think China will suffer economically by the world turning its back on them?

I found out years ago, a person form china could ship a item to a customer cheaper than I could. I like many others want to buy "USA" etc, but using slave labor makes buying Chinese mech so much cheaper. Many times you could buy 4-10 products for one usa one. Plus the magic part is now they are MUCH better at copying the better product, where as before most items where junk. Past time for a need in charge, unless its a specialty item, USA simply can not compete. Need to even up the playing field, but also USA needs to find other ways to "make" it too. Thats a whole another topic. Middle man and consulting is what USA has become, and thats a big joke. 

Edited April 1, 2020 by Basbear

[4Corners]

14 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I found out years ago, a person form china could ship a item to a customer cheaper than I could. I like many others want to buy "USA" etc, but using slave labor makes buying Chinese mech so much cheaper. Many times you could buy 4-10 products for one usa one. Plus the magic part is now they are MUCH better at copying the better product, where as before most items where junk. Past time for a need in charge, unless its a specialty item, USA simply can not compete. Need to even up the playing field, but also USA needs to find other ways to "make" it too. Thats a whole another topic. Middle man and consulting is what USA has become, and thats a big joke. 

Dude I used to live with in my twenties, and I’m still friends with today, owns a company with his dad. Each year or so he has to travel to China to buy a bunch of equipment from there and then it’s shipped to the USA and they replace the manufacturer tag with their own. 

 

You hear it all the time buy American buy American - well yeah I’d like to but American stuff is junk and stuff made overseas is cheaper. Don’t get mad at me the consumer get mad at the companies that employ Chinese  and Foreign companies. 

[4Corners]

American cars are gigantic, over priced pieces of crap. 

[Basbear]

20 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Dude I used to live with in my twenties, and I’m still friends with today, owns a company with his dad. Each year or so he has to travel to China to buy a bunch of equipment from there and then it’s shipped to the USA and they replace the manufacturer tag with their own. 

 

You hear it all the time buy American buy American - well yeah I’d like to but American stuff is junk and stuff made overseas is cheaper. Don’t get mad at me the consumer get mad at the companies that employ Chinese  and Foreign companies. 

Yea everything is nearly made there and the "new" made in the USA is "assembled" in the USA. Entire towns are made around what products are needed, they have all the control. China wanted to make everything and nearly have. One of my dads friends makes dump truck bodies and started out local. Soon it was taking off and he simply couldnt keep up and profits where going down. He went to China (a few times) spend a couple weeks and found a smaller foundry that gave him INSANELY good prices. Now hes the worlds largest producer of dump truck bodies.

Both have become multi-millionaires, both where small time at the beginning too. Its funny cause over the years hes gotten plenty of offers, but he will not leave the first Chinese guy. Apple has been over there for years too, EVERYONE with a brain is, its simply part of every business model now. That doesnt need to change, just make it more equal for small local to compete. Many where on deaths door and the 19 finished them. 

Edited April 1, 2020 by Basbear

[jfra78]

36 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I found out years ago, a person form china could ship a item to a customer cheaper than I could. I like many others want to buy "USA" etc, but using slave labor makes buying Chinese mech so much cheaper. Many times you could buy 4-10 products for one usa one. Plus the magic part is now they are MUCH better at copying the better product, where as before most items where junk. Past time for a need in charge, unless its a specialty item, USA simply can not compete. Need to even up the playing field, but also USA needs to find other ways to "make" it too. Thats a whole another topic. Middle man and consulting is what USA has become, and thats a big joke. 

So slave labor is ok if it makes things cheaper?

[Wes21]

34 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I found out years ago, a person form china could ship a item to a customer cheaper than I could. I like many others want to buy "USA" etc, but using slave labor makes buying Chinese mech so much cheaper. Many times you could buy 4-10 products for one usa one. Plus the magic part is now they are MUCH better at copying the better product, where as before most items where junk. Past time for a need in charge, unless its a specialty item, USA simply can not compete. Need to even up the playing field, but also USA needs to find other ways to "make" it too. Thats a whole another topic. Middle man and consulting is what USA has become, and thats a big joke. 

We make most "things" here in the US, its just that the general population is not aware that we do.  Yes, China can be insanely cheap to make some items.  Its almost laughable how cheaply they can make some stuff.  The comparison between the two countries, however, shouldn't be about who can make it cheaper.  Its whether the US can make it at a reasonable cost or not.  

49 minutes ago, Tbe said:

None of us can afford our lifestyles without cheap stuff from China. The sad reality is, China now holds most of the manufacturing expertise. We couldnt make a lot of things even if we wanted to. Not quickly anyway.

I do think we start making our own medicine and medical supplies though.

What specific items are you talking about?

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

So slave labor is ok if it makes things cheaper?

Nope.

[LinvilleGorge]

59 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I found out years ago, a person form china could ship a item to a customer cheaper than I could. I like many others want to buy "USA" etc, but using slave labor makes buying Chinese mech so much cheaper. Many times you could buy 4-10 products for one usa one. Plus the magic part is now they are MUCH better at copying the better product, where as before most items where junk. Past time for a need in charge, unless its a specialty item, USA simply can not compete. Need to even up the playing field, but also USA needs to find other ways to "make" it too. Thats a whole another topic. Middle man and consulting is what USA has become, and thats a big joke. 

Because they have state sponsored commercial espionage programs to steal everyone's poo and rip it off.