Corona Virus

[stirs]

8 minutes ago, Andre3Stacks said:

In the 1968 NFL season the Jets won the Super Bowl ..

In 1968 the 9-1-1 dialing code started ..

In 1968 George W. Bush graduated from Yale, and from Bush's birthday to 9/11 is 68 days

In 1968 construction began on World Trade Center North Tower

In 1968 the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey came out

In 1968 - Seattle based company, Boeing, rolled out its 747 wide-body jetliner

Seattle company Magnusson Klemencic Associates is the firm that built WTC

What are the odds?

You certainly have more spare time than most

[stirs]

9 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

Well, it depends on who's President at that time

Always true

[Wolfcop]

45 minutes ago, stirs said:

Hypothetically, if antibodies last only 6 weeks or so, it makes vaccinations pretty useless too.

 

What then?

Then we all stay locked in our basements for years to come. Should end well, huh?

[Happy Panther]

2 hours ago, Wolfcop said:

Then we all stay locked in our basements for years to come. Should end well, huh?

Places that wore masks and did what a competent government told them will open up this fall. Too bad Americans can't do that. We are  losing to France.

[SmokinwithWilly]

6 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

Places that wore masks and did what a competent government told them will open up this fall. Too bad Americans can't do that. We are  losing to France.

Don't worry. They'll surrender.

[stirs]

9 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

Places that wore masks and did what a competent government told them will open up this fall. Too bad Americans can't do that. We are  losing to France.

As a percentage of population, deaths are lower here than France.  But I feel like we will catch them soon, maybe by end of July

[Happy Panther]

4 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Don't worry. They'll surrender.

https://theconversation.com/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys-its-time-to-give-the-french-army-the-credit-it-deserves-81853

[Happy Panther]

But motorcycle death.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

5 hours ago, stirs said:

Hypothetically, if antibodies last only 6 weeks or so, it makes vaccinations pretty useless too.

 

What then?

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-scientists-uncover-sars-cov-specific-cell-immunity.html

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The T cells, along with antibodies, are an integral part of the human immune response against viral infections due to their ability to directly target and kill infected cells. A Singapore study has uncovered the presence of virus-specific T cell immunity in people who recovered from COVID-19 and SARS, as well as some healthy study subjects who had never been infected by either virus.

The study by scientists from Duke-NUS Medical School, in close collaboration with the National University of Singapore's (NUS) Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine, (YLLSM), Singapore General Hospital (SGH) and National Centre for Infectious Diseases (NCID) was published in Nature. The findings suggest infection and exposure to coronaviruses induces long-lasting memory T cells, which could help in the management of the current pandemic and in vaccine development against COVID-19.

realistically if a vaccine is just impossible everybody is just going to wear masks in public indefinitely and we're going to have to work on shoring up our ICU capacity.  And hope for a breakthrough antiviral.

A study on primates seemed to show that a second exposure caused mild symptoms but also an increase in a certain protein (e: antibodies specific to a certain protein) that fights infection:

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/07/14/study-in-primates-finds-acquired-immunity-prevents-covid-19-reinfections/

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While more study is needed to understand details of the immune responses, researchers did detect a reassuring appearance of antibodies specific to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in the macaques over the course of the first infection. The spike protein is what the virus uses to attach to macaque and human cells before infecting them.

Of interest, levels of those neutralizing antibodies were even higher two weeks after the second viral challenge than they were two weeks after the initial exposure. However, researchers note that it remains unclear which factors specifically were responsible for the observed protection against reinfection, and apparently the first exposure was sufficient.

 

Edited July 18, 2020 by The NFL Shield At Midfield

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

41 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

But motorcycle death.

They love that story don't they.

Alright guys, you win.  Only 139,999 people have died from COVID-19.  Throw away those masks.

[kungfoodude]

16 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

They love that story don't they.

Alright guys, you win.  Only 139,999 people have died from COVID-19.  Throw away those masks.

Outliers are the best way to assess data. Every statistician knows that.

[cookinbrak]

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

40 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

[45catfan]

3 hours ago, Happy Panther said:

But motorcycle death.

Elective surgeries are allowed now.  But sure, 119% of ICU beds are COVID-19 patients.  Granted certain counties may be stretched like Miami-Dade, but state-wide?  Nah, not even close.  Twist a narrative into a pretzel. It's fun!!!