Todd Gurley

[TheRed]

4 minutes ago, t96 said:

He compares well to guys like Curtis Martin, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk... these guys never got hurt.

Obviously those are legends. But my man, we aren't in the 90's or early 2000's anymore. The NFL has changed and evolved over time.

3 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Oh, no way dude, if we keep running him into the ground he'll be dead by 27. I feel you there. I'm just saying, he doesn't have Gurley's injury history and he is versatile enough to potentially have a part two of his career, kind of like John Smoltz, Rick Ankiel, or Charles Woodson (for an actual football comparison). I've just never seen it happen for an offensive player before. 

Cam Newton didn't have an injury history like that either brother. But we see where he ended up after all the hits and wear and tear. It can happen to anyone.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Oh, no way dude, if we keep running him into the ground he'll be dead by 27. I feel you there. I'm just saying, he doesn't have Gurley's injury history and he is versatile enough to potentially have a part two of his career, kind of like John Smoltz, Rick Ankiel, or Charles Woodson (for an actual football comparison). I've just never seen it happen for an offensive player before. 

It's relevant to point out that Ron Rivera doesn't coach here anymore.

[TheRed]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's relevant to point out that Ron Rivera doesn't coach here anymore.

It's relevant to point out that by far the current successful teams in the league are winning with an RB by committee approach instead of putting it all on one expensive back.

[nogoodbum]

Against our run defense Gurley will look like a spring chicken IMO.

[Khyber53]

3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Obviously those are legends. But my man, we aren't in the 90's or early 2000's anymore. The NFL has changed and evolved over time.

Cam Newton didn't have an injury history like that either brother. But we see where he ended up after all the hits and wear and tear. It can happen to anyone.

Sadly, when it comes to injuries, particularly RBs and QBs, it has more to do with luck than anything else. Conditioning, rehab, training are all important, but in the end it's just luck. And very few leave the sport when they want to, and even fewer don't suffer at least regular aches and pains every day of their lives for it.

Before we get all sentimental for these folks, do remember that carpenters, dock workers, garbage men, warehousers, parcel delivery folks, kitchen workers and all sorts of people end up with injuries and long-term pain and disability because of their jobs, too. They, however, rarely get millions to do their job. It's a tough old world we live in and there aren't any guarantees of comfort or capability later in life for any of us.

Still, hard not to feel bad for any human going through so many collisions, no matter how much money they are paid to do it. (Talk to an old professional wrestler sometime... those folks, whew).

 

[t96]

12 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Obviously those are legends. But my man, we aren't in the 90's or early 2000's anymore. The NFL has changed and evolved over time.

Cam Newton didn't have an injury history like that either brother. But we see where he ended up after all the hits and wear and tear. It can happen to anyone.

Yeah, McC is getting way less carries than those guys in a less physical sport today than it was then. There’s no reason to think he’ll get hurt. RBs today unless truly elite are a dime a dozen and are easily replaced, that’s why they have a “short shelf life,” not due to some crazy amount of injuries at the position. McC has the most unique skill set at the position in the entire game and really isn’t seeing that huge of a workload. He’s not going to slow down any time soon.

[kungfoodude]

CMC also had a high workload in college. He would likely have to be an outlier for him not to experience some sort of decline within the next 3-5 years. It is possible he is that player but it is also foolish from a franchise perspective to assume he is that player.

[WarHeel]

31 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Let me ask you something. Is CMC a bionic man who cannot be injured? We thought #1 was teflon, we ran him into the ground too, and he was 6'5 250. Now where are we at?

I want to share your optimism, but reality needs to begin setting in for ya'll real soon. McCaffrey will not be able to sustain the amount of reps we have given him the last 2 years. If he is going to avoid the RB wall pretty much every other back the last 15 years has eventually ran into, we need to begin transitioning his role now. Otherwise if we are not willing to do that, I am sorry to say that he plays at an expendable position, and we should be exploring his value.

Amazing how someone can repeatedly argue for trading away a guy who has never missed a game let alone missing snaps due to injury based on the premise that he “might get injured because he’s human” while simultaneously advocating that this franchise is trash for walking away from an unknown in a guy who has consistently shown for 4+ years that he can’t stay healthy.

 

Your bias is showing. Time to STFU and end this nonsense.

[Waldo]

Honestly this is good news. I'm at the point where I belive this organization needs to be whiped and embaresed so something changes from this operating strategy. The fact they belive they are competing this years needs a serious reality check. Hopefully that would force them to get their poop together and stop operating in fantasy land.

[Wes21]

18 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Sadly, when it comes to injuries, particularly RBs and QBs, it has more to do with luck than anything else. Conditioning, rehab, training are all important, but in the end it's just luck. And very few leave the sport when they want to, and even fewer don't suffer at least regular aches and pains every day of their lives for it.

Before we get all sentimental for these folks, do remember that carpenters, dock workers, garbage men, warehousers, parcel delivery folks, kitchen workers and all sorts of people end up with injuries and long-term pain and disability because of their jobs, too. They, however, rarely get millions to do their job. It's a tough old world we live in and there aren't any guarantees of comfort or capability later in life for any of us.

Still, hard not to feel bad for any human going through so many collisions, no matter how much money they are paid to do it. (Talk to an old professional wrestler sometime... those folks, whew).

 

There is SOME luck involved, but the reality is that some players understand how to protect themselves better than others.

[pantherj]

The good news is I doubt we'll have to play the 2020 season. We would get slaughtered.

A good young/cheap back to compliment CMC would be a great idea assuming the OC would use him.

 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

There is SOME luck involved, but the reality is that some players understand how to protect themselves better than others.

The system and other tweaks matter too.

Back before some of the rule changes, Bill Belichick used to coach receivers to go down if they saw someone coming at them to avoid taking a big hit. He was comfortable with less yardage if it also meant less punishment.

And let's be real, we're not running a "three yards and a cloud of dust" system here. I expect what will see will look a lot like a West Coast system, meaning lots of attempts to get our guys out in space.

Also, of course a lot of quick throws from our quarterback so he takes less damage as well.

[Black&BlueBubba]

14 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We need somebody to take some carries away from CMC. Dude's tires are gonna be bald before he gets to his second NFL contract at last year's pace.

I do think it is interesting we still have Mike Davis on the roster.  I think he is a 3 mil cap hit.  Are they planning on using him?  

[Mage]

CMC will undoubtedly get less touches than he has in seasons past.  Norv Turner was notorious for having his RBs be among the league leaders in carries/touches while not utilizing his #2 RB. It's a 90s mentality.  I doubt Joe Brady will limit himself that much in regard to personnel.  I'm not sure how good of an OC he will turn out to be, but I do think his offense will incorporate as many people as he can ala LSU last year and Saints offenses over the years.  Hell if he's learned anything from Sean Payton, he might end up using McCaffrey too little.