Hurney not.....bad???? Wut

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

The Patriots, 23rd.  The point is some teams give marginal players more time because they feel obligated to hang on to their draft picks (Hurney).  Others acknowledge a bad pick, cut their loses and move on.

Pretty much.

Somebody tried doing an analysis like this a while back, but the reality is that it ignores so many factors it's pretty much worthless.

[Shotgun]

43 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

I dont get all the Hurney hate.

All of us arm chair GM's can say what we want. None of us would get a SNIFF at the position, meanwhile he has the job. 

His results speak for themself. 

[JawnyBlaze]

Just cuz they’re starting doesn’t make them good. Especially on a Rivera coached team. 

[Mr. Scot]

46 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

I dont get all the Hurney hate.

All of us arm chair GM's can say what we want. None of us would get a SNIFF at the position, meanwhile he has the job. 

I'm pretty sure none of us could get an NFL head coaching job either, but Hue Jackson did.

Does that mean he's good at it?

[cardiaccat52]

Its pretty undeniable that Hurney has definitely hit on some star talent, particularly from 2003 - 2008, and then again in 2011. However, I also think that "4-year starter" number is a little misleading. The other, bad part, of Hurney being a GM is the terrible contracts he gave out. We've consistently carried a lot of dead money, which I think forced the team to play draft picks as starters, since we've never been in a good position to sign multiple, high profile free agents.

So yes, he may have the highest amount of drafted players that have started 4+ years, but some of those players would have been benched or released if we had better cap management. 

[mrcompletely11]

14 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

And what is it saying about other GMs that cant find quality players in the draft?

No, without going into the numbers it could also say that teams especially better teams were quicker to pull the plug and sign a FA or draft their successor. 

[mrcompletely11]

13 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

The Patriots, 23rd.  The point is some teams give marginal players more time because they feel obligated to hang on to their draft picks (Hurney).  Others acknowledge a bad pick, cut their loses and move on.

exactly

[Inimicus]

Trying to correlate winning to a single metric like how a team drafts is just silly.

 

Belichick would win with Marty making the picks

[45catfan]

3 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

Trying to correlate winning to a single metric like how a team drafts is just silly.

 

Belichick would win with Marty making the picks

Let's not get crazy here....

[TN05]

33 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Byron Bell is a four year starter too.

Byron Bell was an underrated free agent. Two of his three years as starter here were under Gettleman.

[stbugs]

46 minutes ago, Growl said:

somebody posted not so long ago that the most you can expect out of a draft from a good GM is "3-4 impact players"

like lol.

 Most teams consider 1 a success.

still I'll wait to see where my criticism does and doesn't lie until I see what we've done with the QB position.

No they don’t. The article literally says most teams get two eventual starters per draft. A success isn’t 1 or 2, it’s 3 or more. Being below average or average isn’t success. Look at the Saints recent drafts that pulled them from behind us to way better the past 4 years.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, stbugs said:

No they don’t. The article literally says most teams get two eventual starters per draft. A success isn’t 1 or 2, it’s 3 or more. Being below average or average isn’t success. Look at the Saints recent drafts that pulled them from behind us to way better the past 4 years.

Hurney completely poo the bed with the 2019 draft

[GoobyPls]

1 hour ago, MMA said:

Thanks to starters like Samuel, Amini, Fua, Terrell McClain, etc. 

Most of those guys weren’t even starters, even Samuel hasn’t been a starter for that long.

 

 

[jfra78]

To all of you who are discrediting this name a Hurney drafted player who started 4 years or more and was garbage?