MLB already about to shutdown after starting July 23rd lol

[LegioX]

NFL is to much of a contact sport for a season to work. MLB is having issues and they don’t even tackle or touch each other. If there is a seasons, it’s going to be a complete crap show and that’s it.

[Basbear]

Tomlin had a good quote about this "One fail we all fail." Marlins failed, why on earth did they allow 2 positive players around the team? If you wanted to fug up thats how you do it.  

[Harbingers]

1 hour ago, LegioX said:

NFL is to much of a contact sport for a season to work. MLB is having issues and they don’t even tackle or touch each other. If there is a seasons, it’s going to be a complete crap show and that’s it.

I mean the NHL is a super contact sport. There was even already 1 fight today and if Blackhawks and Oilers keep going like it is there’s gonna be a lot more. But using the bubble concept they have zero positive tests. They are testing everyone every day as a league. I have no illusions that currently the NFL has about a 2% chance of completing the season.
 

And honestly either I don’t think that’s such a bad thing for us. Giving CMC a full year to recoup. What I would hate to see is us play a few games and a big name go down and have to go through rehab for nothing. Plus rhule’s first year sucks ass anywho judging by history so maybe we can just skip that. If I was rhule I wouldn’t even let CMC, Moore, Shaq, KK play until well into November if it is looking like a complete season with playoff hopes. 

[Basbear]

I dare say Nascar has shown its possible. I believe they have around 20 people on each team of 41, with some overlap with trucks and xfintiy teams too.  They all travel out of state to different states and done so for over a month. Jimmy Johnson got the convid and was back within one week. This must have given NFL hope. They had 20k fans at Bristol TN, again they have already done this.  

[1of10Charnatives]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

I dare say Nascar has shown its possible. I believe they have around 20 people on each team of 41, with some overlap with trucks and xfintiy teams too.  They all travel out of state to different states and done so for over a month. Jimmy Johnson got the convid and was back within one week. This must have given NFL hope. They had 20k fans at Bristol TN, again they have already done this.  

I'm pretty sure you're smart enough that no one has to explain to you the fundamental differences between driving around in separate cars and lining up shoulder to shoulder nose to nose across a line of scrimmage that the two sports have when it comes to social distancing. It's even easier for pit crews to social distance than secondaries because at some point db's have to close on the ball wheras you can change all four tires on a race car without being much closer than six feet from each other.

NASCAR has shown it's possible for NASCAR. That pretty much has zero bearing on how possible it might be for the NFL.

[CPF4LIFE]

How would the nfl even do a bubble? Lol

[Brooklyn 3.0]

1 hour ago, CPF4LIFE said:

How would the nfl even do a bubble? Lol

It's not very realistic, but they could use MetLife Stadium. Yes, ONE stadium. Players and staff would be set up in a handful of hotels where only they are the guests. They are shuttled in and out. There would be 2-3 games A DAY. After each game the locker room would be disinfected. How they would practice I have no idea. Almost impossible but really the only way. Unless you can find a spot, near hotels, with more than one field. Shuttle between NJ and Philly?

[Pantherzack179812]

15 hours ago, Happy Panther said:

Yeah we are all stupid, thank goodness you are here.

The NFL could do a bubble that looks nothing like the NBA. It's an $8B industry. They could literally build a massive bubble in the desert from scratch if they wanted. Or four bubbles. Or whatever.

Well, I mean NFL teams are already losing 38% of their revenue (Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2020/05/18/the-stadium-revenue-each-nfl-team-will-lose-if-games-are-played-without-fans/#74f636df691a) 

Paying for literally a fugging island or dessert that would cost a lot more then what the NFL will draw from TV deals is crazy.

Again, the NBA is 90% through the season and will be isolated until October at worst, the NFL players would have to be isolated for 6 MONTHS... If you can't comprehend why that would never work, all power to you. I'm not the only one who has stated the ridiculousness of this suggestion. 

Also, people ignore that after losing 38% of TOTAL REVENUE, the NFL still has expenses... Player contracts, paying to operate the stadium, coaches, employees, etc... That NFL is not going to make their usual barrel full of money this year. So your suggestion is they spend a ridiculous amount of money to have a bubble for 32 teams for 6 months that they have to stay away from their families. 

[Harbingers]

9 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

It's not very realistic, but they could use MetLife Stadium. Yes, ONE stadium. Players and staff would be set up in a handful of hotels where only they are the guests. They are shuttled in and out. There would be 2-3 games A DAY. After each game the locker room would be disinfected. How they would practice I have no idea. Almost impossible but really the only way. Unless you can find a spot, near hotels, with more than one field. Shuttle between NJ and Philly?

There’s a lot of schools that most likely won’t be having people there that could be utilized for practice. The smart thing to do would be to do a round robin type thing. Much like the NHL is, have half the teams at an east coast location and half the teams at a west coast, rearrange the schedule so that all the teams can play that half of the at that location. Then halfway through swap half of each half to the other location and finish the games. 

I mean realistically they could do it by divisions too if they really wanted but that would require 4 bubbles. Then at the end everyone would play their “wildcard” teams, then playoffs at 1-2 locations. 

The three biggest things, I don’t see a chance in hell the NFL would want games Monday through Sunday all day every day. I don’t see the NFLPA/coaches wanting that either. It would tax the Fug out of the guys.

And I don’t see the players/coaches/staff/camera crews/media pools/etc wanting to live in quarantine for 6+ months away from their families.

Addition; I guess if you did four bubbles you could do 2-3 games on Sunday and 1 game Monday night per bubble realistically, or do 1-2 Saturday, 2 Sunday and 1 Monday. Giving time to clean everything and reset the stadiums between each game. 

IE: the NFCS would go to a west coast location for all their games VS. the AFCW. Do all the AFC vs NFC first since they have the least amount of merit on the playoff seeding. 

Then they would travel back to an east coast/north location to play all their NFCN matchups.

Then division play, aka AFCS and NFCS using the same stadium.

Then the odd man out teams from each division(but that’s where it really gets fuggy schedule wise).

In that format with four bubbles people would have to change bubbles only once a month at most. 
 

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Of course none of these formats address obvious player transactions due to injury/trade. 

[Peon Awesome]

You don't have to have a comprehensive bubble like the NBA to be an improvement over what the NFL currently has planned. The easiest thing to do would be to have 4 central sites consisting of 8 teams from 2 divisions. The divisions would be the two from opposite conferences slated to play each other. For us, that would be the NFC South and AFC West. That would eliminate all travel for the season. This would be only 10 games with the current system so I'd suggest playing your own division 3 times each, bringing it to 13 with 4 bye weeks per team to allow for schedule flexibility and additional recovery weeks for the inevitable COVID outbreak or two. During the middle 8 weeks of the season, half the teams in each location will be on bye. So if a game has to be rescheduled from week 2 due to COVID, there are plenty of opportunities in the middle of the season to do it. There would be some lost revenue but not as dramatic as it seems compared to now since you'd still have 17 weeks of your full slate of nationally televised games.  Plus it would highly increase the chances of a full season instead of taking the risk the season might get cancelled a few weeks in with the current plan. 

Anyhow, I realize that's hardly a perfect solution and I'm sure you could come up with a better plan than that but the point is, the idea that the NFL had no options but to proceed like they are is false.

[Riverboat Ron]

Don't test the players, no tests equals no positive coronavirus players.

[Panthera onca]

They will just have to have enough players in reserve to replace the guys that quarantine after a positive test. There is an endless supply of players. The teams that manage things the best and adhere to protocols to minimize infections will have a huge advantage.

[top dawg]

I mean, I absolutely love the NFL, but there are so many things going on in society that it's not a priority of mine. On some level, I think it's stupid and sends the wrong message. The NFL is NOT prepared for football in 2020, just like the rest of society is NOT prepared to go on like normal. This is so obvious, but yet people will continue to try and beat a square peg in a round hole! It's time to move humanity forward. We have the resources! The NFL has the resources to play games fairly isolated, and (if they wish) air them at the appropriate times. Everyone just had to be willing to make sacrifices!

/END SOAPBOX

[Happy Panther]

8 hours ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

 If you can't comprehend why that would never work

Awesome. Another intellectual to keep us in line. I like your use of ALL CAPS so we slow posters know which words are important.

But you are missing the point. The point is the NFL doesn't seem to have a contingency plan or if they do they have kept it secret. I would like to think Goodell got his ten smartest guys and said "if we need to make a bubble quickly how do we do it." Building your own bubble was just and idea but I think it could be done. More on that shortly. Others have posted ideas. Use one or two football complexes. Hell could even be high schools. Need fields with the ability to handle media and housing. 

As for build your own bubble you mentioned cost. I don't know how you came up with the idea that it would cost more than TV revenue. But you are the smart one not me. There are several ways to mitigate costs. First of all there will be endless opportunities for sponsorship. From naming the roads to what restaurants you allow in. Let your mind wander. Secondly you could probably partner with a state or municipality to subsidize it with the promise that they own it after the NFL leaves. Make it an all purpose sports complex.

As for the season you could split it in two. Do half the season and the let everyone off for December. Then two weeks of quarantine and finish the season. The  details aren't terribly important but the NFL and NFLPA can agree on something.

In the real world there are always solutions.