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did you feel better about the future of the team in 2011 or 2020


which teams future did you feel better about  

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13 hours ago, Jacabee said:

The responses to this question will be inherently prone to bias based on knowing how the intermittent years played out, and specifically how the careers of certain players within that period went. 

This is why I voted from a perspective prior to playing the first game of each respective season. It’s a lot easier to be equally excited for both despite Cam on the roster because he hadn’t played a snap at that point and 2020 was the biggest overhaul in franchise history which creates excitement in its own right.

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10 hours ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Comparing 2011 to 2020 is like comparing apples to oranges. In 2011 we knew who our QB was going to be even if we didn't know how he was going to turn out. In 2020, half the huddle can't even agree if TB is the future at QB, it's more accurate to compare 2010 to 2020. In 2010 we had Pickles at QB and definitely rebuilding, in 2011 we at least have a sense of direction in the QB department. 

I’d rather have Clausen than Teddy. At least Clausen got us Cam. Teddy is somehow duping a portion of the fan base into thinking he can be a decent starting QB, as well as the coaches presumably. 

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13 hours ago, Jacabee said:

The responses to this question will be inherently prone to bias based on knowing how the intermittent years played out, and specifically how the careers of certain players within that period went. 

Yeah so my excitement at watching Cam come in and throw for over 400 yards in his first 2 games was something I actually felt at that time and not based on how the following years played out. If anything, we got less out of Cam than what my hopes were based on his rookie season. It’s a simple question my dude, no need to try to get overly analytical here.

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2011, without a doubt.  However, part of that is because in 2011, myself as a fan, and probably most of our fanbase, hadn't been traumatized and jaded by years of inconsistency.  Yes, we were celebrating Fox being gone and the inconsistencies in that regime.  But seriously, we hadn't even begun to experience the full roller coaster yet.  Ultimate highs to ultimate lows were still in front of us at that point.

I think myself as a fan and probably the entire fanbase is more guarded at this point.  I think we all see the glimmer of hope brought by the staff, but we're now waiting to see it turn potential into reality, and then sustain it.  I think you'll see the fanbase hype train get fully loaded if Rhule can deliver us three winning seasons in a row, with at least two playoff berths in that span.

I think 2011 "felt" better, but 2020 may have more potential for the long term future.

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I'll be the odd man out here and say 2020. Cam was exciting to watch as a QB but I wasn't excited about Ron. Reminded me too much of Fox and I never really saw any long term success as a team possible with him. 

Rhule gives me hope of building a winning franchise. I'm less concerned with having a key piece than I am with having a cornerstone that can put it all together. I want to win and even though Cam was special I never had the feeling that Ron was the guy that could bring it all together year after year. I think Rhule is. Winning culture means more to me than franchise QB. 

 

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Everyone is going to say 2011 because they know 4 years later how that turned out.  You don't know what this will turn into yet so it's hard to compare the two.  As far as just coaching and not the players I would say this team over the 2011 team.  Ron came in as a defensive coach in 2011 and we had an awful defense.  TD was hurt again and Beason played the first game and then missed the rest of the season.  It was Charles Johnson and a bunch of nothing on the defense.  But Ron was the guy that made the San Diego defense great from a bunch of nobodies and we were like 27th or 28th in defense.  This defense is a much younger defense than that one, neither has alot of talent.  But until the Tampa game we found ways to be in every game.  That was not really the case in 2011.   Early in the season we were in most games in 2011 but at about this point on we got blow out a few times in 2011.  If Rhule has this team competitive until the end I would definitely say this team.

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27 minutes ago, bababoey said:

Everyone is going to say 2011 because they know 4 years later how that turned out. 

Not really.

In 2011 we had an exciting rookie QB. The jury was still out on Rivera.  Hell, by the time the season was halfway over, I was no longer pissed at Andrew Luck for snubbing us, just to take ballroom dancing classes at Stanford.

In 2020, Rhule looks legit, but our QB of the future is not on this roster.

 

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16 minutes ago, djp14 said:

Not really.

In 2011 we had an exciting rookie QB. The jury was still out on Rivera.  Hell, by the time the season was halfway over, I was no longer pissed at Andrew Luck for snubbing us, just to take ballroom dancing classes at Stanford.

In 2020, Rhule looks legit, but our QB of the future is not on this roster.

 

In 2026 you ask which had you more excited and we have been to 2 super bowls, even if we lost both of them, everyone will say 2020.  If in 2026 we have not had a winning season and not been to the playoffs since Rhule got here, everyone will say they were more excited for 2011.  That's how revisionist history works.  If you already know the outcome of something it's easy to go back and say you felt good or bad about it depending on what that outcome was. 

For example, when Cam was drafted,  half the draft experts loved him and half of them hated him.  Hell Mayock had him as the 40 something player on his board.  Now everyone on radio and TV says Cam was a no brainer but that was not even close to the case when he was drafted.

I thought Cam would either be great or awful.  No real in between.  So everyone has gone back and changed their opinion based on what he became.  Not what they thought at the time.

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1 hour ago, bababoey said:

If you already know the outcome of something it's easy to go back and say you felt good or bad about it depending on what that outcome was.

While that's true, I actually remember how I felt during the 2011 season - bullish on Cam, so-so on Rivera.

No revisionism needed.

 

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