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Panthers position group grades Spot on about Teddy


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To date, Panthers position grades

on Bridgewater 

Quarterbacks: C-
Teddy Bridgewater has completed a high % of his passes and has racked up a lot of yards. However, he hasn't been aggressive enough to really take advantage of the weapons he has and has also committed too many turnovers. His 14/8 touchdown/interception ratio is what one would expect from a respectable backup, not a starter. At this point, we know what Teddy is. We'd like to see more of what P.J. Walker and Will Grier can do during the last month of the season.
 
The grades in the other position group are pretty obvious and fair, it seems to me 

 

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I think they graded the OL too high (having them graded the same as the DL seems off to me).  The problem with using sack numbers to compare our OL to the rest of the league is this is supposed to be a quick-hit, timing based offense so the number had better be lower.  If they are relying solely on stats vs. an eye test, I can see how that happened.  That is the only big miss I see.

I think the LBs are graded slightly too high.  I'd probably give them a C-, and without Chinn, that grade would be worse. 

Other than those nits, it looks pretty reasonable to me.

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13 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

I think they graded the OL too high (having them graded the same as the DL seems off to me).  The problem with using sack numbers to compare our OL to the rest of the league is this is supposed to be a quick-hit, timing based offense so the number had better be lower.  If they are relying solely on stats vs. an eye test, I can see how that happened.  That is the only big miss I see.

I think the LBs are graded slightly too high.  I'd probably give them a C-, and without Chinn, that grade would be worse. 

I agree on the OL.  That's too high.  They have not been very good.  Despite the fact that we have some SERIOUSLY scary deep threats at WR, I am reasonably sure that even with a QB who could make the throws, our OL couldn't protect long enough, consistently enough to make good on that threat.

LB's also too high.  Chinn is the only one who has really balled out, and is he a LB?  A safety?  I dunno.  (I don't care mind you, he's playing great).  Shaq has been exactly what he's always been.  Average to good, but not elite.  Everyone else has been average or a little worse, except Whitehead who has consistently been an embarassment.

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7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep. No disagreement on that. Teddy isn't awful but he's certainly not good and yeah, he's honestly slightly below average.

I went into the season only expecting him to be slightly above average. This team is better than I expected, but he is one of the few disappointments. All the other position groups are better, or at least as good, as I expected.

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5 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

I went into the season only expecting him to be slightly above average. This team is better than I expected, but he is one of the few disappointments. All the other position groups are better, or at least as good, as I expected.

Yep. Agreed on the other position groups. Teddy started out better than I expected but has regressed to what I expected  I figured that the more tape became available on him with us the worse he'd look.

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28 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep. Agreed on the other position groups. Teddy started out better than I expected but has regressed to what I expected  I figured that the more tape became available on him with us the worse he'd look.

Good point on the tape. Losing CMC is probably the other part of that. He could make any QB look better.

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