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MHS831

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Jeremy Chinn, the late second round pick from Southern Illinois, just became the third Panther to reach 100 tackles as a rookie--and he is a defensive back/OLB/Nickel hybrid player.  The other 2?  Middle Linebackers Luke and Jon Beason. 

And there is talk that Chase Young is in the running for defensive ROY.  No way.

  • Young has 35 (26 solo) tackles,  5.5 sacks, and 3 forced fumbles and a fumble return of 47 yards. 
  • Chinn has 101 tackles (61 solo), 1 sack, 2 forced fumbles, 1 interception, and 2 fumble returns for 45 yards, and 2 TDs.

By far our best player this season. Pro Bowler.

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he's already won defensive rookie of the month twice. 

you'd think the same things that would theoretically stop him from getting DROTY would have stopped him there. 

like it's pretty clear listening to the announcers the league is aware how freakishly good this kid is. the panthers coverage prepares during the week to talk about him. 

and last night, good lord he was all over the field in the first half. he cleaned up everything. 

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22 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Jeremy Chinn, the late second round pick from Southern Illinois, just became the third Panther to reach 100 tackles as a rookie--and he is a defensive back/OLB/Nickel hybrid player.  The other 2?  Middle Linebackers Luke and Jon Beason. 

And there is talk that Chase Young is in the running for defensive ROY.  No way.

  • Young has 35 (26 solo) tackles,  5.5 sacks, and 3 forced fumbles and a fumble return of 47 yards. 
  • Chinn has 101 tackles (61 solo), 1 sack, 2 forced fumbles, 1 interception, and 2 fumble returns for 45 yards, and 2 TDs.

By far our best player this season. Pro Bowler.

If we are going to use tackles a huge indicator of performance does that mean Boston is our 3rd best player on defense?

Don't get me wrong, I like what Chinn has done so far this year but people severally overate tackles as a indicator of playing well.

Tackles are largely a product of scheme and position.  If another safety played in his spot would their tackle totals be much different?  Would those tackles happen a step sooner? a step later? Tackles by themselves don't tell you the entire picture.

 

 

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1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

If we are going to use tackles a huge indicator of performance does that mean Boston is our 3rd best player on defense?

Don't get me wrong, I like what Chinn has done so far this year but people severally overate tackles as a indicator of playing well.

Tackles are largely a product of scheme and position.  If another safety played in his spot would their tackle totals be much different?  Would those tackles happen a step sooner? a step later? Tackles by themselves don't tell you the entire picture.

 

 

Tackles by LBers are the indicator of success. Because this means the tackles are being made before they are getting to second level (the majority of the time) Tackles by Safeties depend on the position they play (FS or SS) and the style of defense. In the case of Chinn, it is not over rate to use tackles to determine his performance. His a LB and expected to stop the ball carrier from getting to the secondary.

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Chinn was on Adam’s a lot last night if people didn’t notice. Not the whole game but noticeable snaps. 40 something yards for him.

he is an absolute stud and can line up in so many positions and do damage. Imagine what this defense is gonna be able to do in two years when these players are in their 3rd and 4th years. Like I’ve said this defense will be elite in two years.

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1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

he's already won defensive rookie of the month twice. 

you'd think the same things that would theoretically stop him from getting DROTY would have stopped him there. 

like it's pretty clear listening to the announcers the league is aware how freakishly good this kid is. the panthers coverage prepares during the week to talk about him. 

and last night, good lord he was all over the field in the first half. he cleaned up everything. 

He plays at a different speed than everybody else on our D. He flys around like a damn missile out there. 

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