Philip Rivers retiring

[NAS]

Sad he never made the superbowl but choked in big moments.

[BurnNChinn]

52 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Rivers>>>>>>Ben and Eli

 

The Chargers are a terribly ran franchise and would have been the Browns west of it wasn’t for Rivers all those years

I always said he would have those SB’s if he would have not been traded from giants. Eli should be thanking Rivers.

[Khyber53]

Best of the world to him. Good guy. He'll have a gold jacket in a few years.

[Rags]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

They likely wouldn't have made the playoffs with the rest of their roster of QB's. Remember, they already tried that. 

QB driven league, remember. Rivers was the only top QB they have had since the remnants of what used to be Andrew Luck left. That's actually the saddest part about the Indy situation, they built a great team around him but he couldn't hold up to take advantage of it. I would be really upset as a Colts fan.

Okay but that's not "carrying" though.

He was good enough and better than Brissett. That's all they needed. 

[shaqattaq]

22 minutes ago, panthers320 said:

Anyone with more kids than playoff wins isnt a HOF QB

that sucks, according to Google, Cam has 3 wins and 7 kids. no HOF for him.

https://www.sportscasting.com/you-wont-believe-how-many-kids-cam-newton-has-fathered/

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car/playoffs.htm

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, Rags said:

Okay but that's not "carrying" though.

He was good enough and better than Brissett. That's all they needed. 

I mean....fair point but there really aren't a lot of great cases of a QB "carrying" a team to the Super Bowl. The one that definitely sticks out would be 2015 Cam, right? That was largely the greatness of him that season that propelled us to those heights. It isn't like his supporting offensive cast was much.

[panthers320]

1 minute ago, shaqattaq said:

that sucks, according to Google, Cam has 3 wins and 7 kids. no HOF for him.

https://www.sportscasting.com/you-wont-believe-how-many-kids-cam-newton-has-fathered/

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car/playoffs.htm

As much as I love Cam, I dont think he is in the HOF either. 

[Snake]

2 hours ago, 45catfan said:

He went to college in NC, but grew up in Alabama.

Yeah I was waiting for someone to correct that. 

[Snake]

1 hour ago, panthers320 said:

As much as I love Cam, I dont think he is in the HOF either. 

If he would have won a SB he would be. His career ended too early to get in any other way. 

[MHS831]

When Rivers was at State, TA McLendon told me that he had to tell him where to line up and what hole to run through after calling the play. 

TA did not realize that he was confessing to being stupid--he was telling me how smart Rivers was.  Said, "He knew where everyone on the field was supposed to be and what everyone on D was going to do."

 

Edited January 20, 2021 by MHS831

[GoobyPls]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, Rivers had a lot of great talent in San Diego so I don't know that I would agree that his supporting cast was always inferior. That is why I referenced them squandering so many HOF careers. I fear we will see similar with Justin Herbert.

I think Rivers and Big Ben are close, each with some positives and negatives to support their cases for being better. 

Who was Rivers best WR? Vincent Jackson? He would be Ben’s 4th best WR

The pass blocking wise Ben had the edge.

RB I guess you can give it to Rivers he had LT for 3 seasons.

And coaching is not even close.

[SmokinwithWilly]

So is Indy officially in the QB hunt as well? One more team in need of a QB because Brissett obviously isnt it. 

[panthers320]

6 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Who was Rivers best WR? Vincent Jackson? He would be Ben’s 4th best WR

The pass blocking wise Ben had the edge.

RB I guess you can give it to Rivers he had LT for 3 seasons.

And coaching is not even close.

Rivers had Gates though too

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Who was Rivers best WR? Vincent Jackson? He would be Ben’s 4th best WR

The pass blocking wise Ben had the edge.

RB I guess you can give it to Rivers he had LT for 3 seasons.

And coaching is not even close.

He did have Antonio Gates and Keenan Allen. Certainly not the WR corps that Big Ben had but he has definitely had some talent around him. That is what always made San Diego such an interesting case, it wasn't for lack of talent the franchise consistently fails. It's because it's a poorly run organization.