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NFL execs: it’s going to take 3 first rounders at least for DeShaun Watson.

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2 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

How the fug are you going to rebuild once you're cap strapped to his contract and trade all your picks away ? It's likely going to take even more than 3 firsts 

You figure it the fug out because it's your job and you have a top three QB in the NFL

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1 minute ago, Scott12345 said:

it would be totally stupid

It would be very smart to do it. Because QB's dont grow on trees. For a top 10 QB? Absolutely not. For a top 3 QB? Yes, you do it. And twice on Sunday's. This is a QB driven league. You don't have a QB, you're not winning poo. Hence the predictable ass matchups we have on Sunday. Brady vs Rodger. Allen vs Mahomes (if he's healthy). 

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14 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

Everyone's acting like we're inserting Watson in a KC roster like Mahomes . In reality were still rebuilding the Oline and the defense . 

Three first rounders is an awful lot to give up for a rebuilding team.

If we were a more established team, maybe. But when you're rebuilding, giving up one of the best tools you have for completing that task isn't a great idea.

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12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Three first rounders is an awful lot to give up for a rebuilding team.

If we were a more established team, maybe. But when you're rebuilding, giving up one of the best tools you have for completing that task isn't a great idea.

People need to factor in the cap cost also.  Lets assume its takes 3 1st and CMC.

The real question is:

Watson or Rookie QB (whoever you draft at 8 ) + 2 future 1st round picks + CMC + $100m in cap space over 5 years.

$100m is roughly the difference in cap cost between Watson for 5 years and anyone we pick.  $100m will help a lot in filling out a roster.

Even if you are wrong about the QB this year you still have 2 more 1st to use on future QBs.

A franchise QB on a rookie deal is easily the best deal in all of the NFL.  Drafting a QB is risky, but if you give up that much for an established QB you are reducing your margin of error on what draft picks you do have and also putting a lot of pressure on any free agent dollars you spend because they will be limited.

 

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29 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Three first rounders is an awful lot to give up for a rebuilding team.

If we were a more established team, maybe. But when you're rebuilding, giving up one of the best tools you have for completing that task isn't a great idea.

The reality is that winning consistently and winning superbowls without a elite qb is difficult to do.  And drafting one is hit and miss, and tends to be more miss than hit.  Watson is the closest thing to a sure thing.  

And in truth, I don't think we are as far away as some do.    We weren't that far away this year.  Pick up a good corner and a couple of decent to good olineman in the next two drafts, and we could put ourselves in very good position.

Granted, its  a difficult decision to make though.  

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4 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

The reality is that winning consistently and winning superbowls without a elite qb is difficult to do.  And drafting one is hit and miss, and tends to be more miss than hit.  Watson is the closest thing to a sure thing.  

And in truth, I don't think we are as far away as some do.    We weren't that far away this year.  Pick up a good corner and a couple of decent to good olineman in the next two drafts, and we could put ourselves in very good position.

Granted, its  a difficult decision to make though.  

I definitely don't see us as just a quarterback and a couple of good players away.

We spent years complaining because despite the fact we had Cam Newton, he didn't have a good enough team around him. I'm not a fan of seeing us go back into that position.

(and I don't really think Watson would be either)

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If you are rolling with the idea that we are drafting a QB in the 1st round this year anyway, then really its only 2 1st round picks and a rookie contract we're trading away.  That is definitely a fair deal for Deshaun Watson, even for a team rebuilding.

 

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