Todd McShay is CONVINCED we will move on from Teddy

[JABANOG]

Senior Bowl Practice on ESPNU .. He said he talked to Rhule Said Rhule said 8 times we NEEDED A QB to drive us down and win the game and we just didn't have that.. and that the panthers are "scouring" for a QB not looking for one 

[Mr. Scot]

I think most people are convinced of that at this point.

[ncfan]

The thing is Rhule can say "we need a QB" all day long.  But if we can't get one due to our position, well, we're stuck.

 

 

There are plenty of teams that Need and want QBs as well, and can offer More.

 

Edited January 28, 2021 by ncfan

[Basbear]

I will quote Rhule and discuss his talking, but Id do not trust that guy.

 

I maybe the only one that isnt fully ready to move on form teddy. Contract makes it so and it is possible with a normal off-season, Teddy could get better. Yes he could get worse, but I dont see smart way to get away form him until 2022. Teddy also needs a decent TE and fully healthy CMC, just like any new QB that comes in. 

[JawnyBlaze]

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I will quote Rhule and discuss his talking, but Id do not trust that guy.

 

I maybe the only one that isnt fully ready to move on form teddy. Contract makes it so and it is possible with a normal off-season, Teddy could get better. Yes he could get worse, but I dont see smart way to get away form him until 2022. Teddy also needs a decent TE and fully healthy CMC, just like any new QB that comes in. 

Teddy isn’t getting better. Many of us called this as soon as he signed. He’s not a second year player. He is who he is. He is an acceptable backup, very far from a starter.  Even without CMC last year he had more weapons than most QBs are afforded.  

[thennek]

TB- A very expensive mistake.....

[CRA]

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

I will quote Rhule and discuss his talking, but Id do not trust that guy.

 

I maybe the only one that isnt fully ready to move on form teddy. Contract makes it so and it is possible with a normal off-season, Teddy could get better. Yes he could get worse, but I dont see smart way to get away form him until 2022. Teddy also needs a decent TE and fully healthy CMC, just like any new QB that comes in. 

Teddy has consistently always been the exact same dude.    He isn't going to get better.  His issues are in his QB DNA. 

 

[Wes21]

The entire concept of TB at $20M a year was silly and counterproductive to begin with.

[Basbear]

2 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Teddy isn’t getting better. Many of us called this as soon as he signed. He’s not a second year player. He is who he is. He is an acceptable backup, very far from a starter.  Even without CMC last year he had more weapons than most QBs are afforded.  

Rich Gannon got better at a late stage, Kurt Warner did too. Odds are not in Teddys favor, AT ALL. Mainly Im hoping he gets better, cause Id dont see a smart move to move on this year. The team needed TDs, CMC had 6 TDs in three games. I feel lots of the teddy hate, needs to be on CMC. It was a short weird convid offseason and Joe Brady never install a offense before. Teddy was new to carolina too, many reasons for his lack of play. 

[JABANOG]

Voth claims Teddy deal being a prove it deal was "obvious"

 

https://twitter.com/PanthersBill/status/1354875380025462787

[therealmjl]

18 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I will quote Rhule and discuss his talking, but Id do not trust that guy.

 

I maybe the only one that isnt fully ready to move on form teddy. Contract makes it so and it is possible with a normal off-season, Teddy could get better. Yes he could get worse, but I dont see smart way to get away form him until 2022. Teddy also needs a decent TE and fully healthy CMC, just like any new QB that comes in. 

Lol ok

[Seltzer]

8 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Teddy isn’t getting better. Many of us called this as soon as he signed. He’s not a second year player. He is who he is. He is an acceptable backup, very far from a starter.  Even without CMC last year he had more weapons than most QBs are afforded.  

This... and I wanted Teddy to succeed b/c he was the Panthers QB.  He honestly looked like he could be the answer the 1st half of the season.

The 2nd half was truthfully no better than what Kyle Allen, Taylor Heinicke, etc. could provide.  Honestly, Heinicke probably would have beaten Teddy had he been the starter the whole game instead of Haskins.

Teddy had more weapons last year than Cam ever had here, and also had an offensive line, that while not great, certainly wasn't as bad as many of the ones we "protected" Cam with.

They picked Teddy b/c he knew the system.  And Teddy wasn't awful for the most part by any stretch.

But the truth is, and Rhule knows this along with most fans, QB's are ultimately judged by wins and losses, and for their ability to make it happen when the game is on the line.

Teddy had chances in the majority of games we played, and he couldn't do it.  He was the anthesis of clutch in many respects- in many ways the anti-Jake

Jake was not perfect, but it always seemed like before he messed up his elbow that he played his best in the 4th with the game on the line.  Jake could be shaky, but you had a confidence he could pull it together when it mattered.

Teddy really is the exact opposite.  He played his best ball when the game wasn't on the line.

I truly believe Teddy could be a playoff QB if we built around him and things generally went well.  But Teddy doesn't appear able to elevate the team, and he certainly doesn't look like a QB we can win a SB with.

Tepper & Rhule don't want to be stuck with a guy like that

[Basbear]

3 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

This... and I wanted Teddy to succeed b/c he was the Panthers QB.  He honestly looked like he could be the answer the 1st half of the season.

The 2nd half was truthfully no better than what Kyle Allen, Taylor Heinicke, etc. could provide.  Honestly, Heinicke probably would have beaten Teddy had he been the starter the whole game instead of Haskins.

Teddy had more weapons last year than Cam ever had here, and also had an offensive line, that while not great, certainly wasn't as bad as many of the ones we "protected" Cam with.

They picked Teddy b/c he knew the system.  And Teddy wasn't awful for the most part by any stretch.

But the truth is, and Rhule knows this along with most fans, QB's are ultimately judged by wins and losses, and for their ability to make it happen when the game is on the line.

Teddy had chances in the majority of games we played, and he couldn't do it.  He was the anthesis of clutch in many respects- in many ways the anti-Jake

Jake was not perfect, but it always seemed like before he messed up his elbow that he played his best in the 4th with the game on the line.  Jake could be shaky, but you had a confidence he could pull it together when it mattered.

Teddy really is the exact opposite.  He played his best ball when the game wasn't on the line.

I truly believe Teddy could be a playoff QB if we built around him and things generally went well.  But Teddy doesn't appear able to elevate the team, and he certainly doesn't look like a QB we can win a SB with.

Tepper & Rhule don't want to be stuck with a guy like that

No knows, but Matt Rhule let it slip Teddy was not the same since the second TB game, he missed one game too. I disagree with the notion, he can not play better. 

[Basbear]

10 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Lol ok

Any lies in my statements?