Deshaun Watson Update

[chknwing]

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Verge said:

I no longer believe Houston will be able to retain him. 

They might not, but I definitely believe they're going to give it their damndest.

Well, short of the obvious step of firing Jack Easterby.

(that they value him enough to keep him in the middle of all this mess is just insane to me)

[Verge]

In todays NFL, there is a very slim chance of you winning a super bowl without a franchise QB. Plus side if you have Mahomes, Watson, Brady, Allen, Rodgers, or Wilson. You are almost always in the race with those guys. CMC will almost never get you 2+ wins by himself, we already know this given the last two years. 2-3 first rounders is certainly steep, but you have a much better chance bouncing back from that loss than finding a Deshaun Watson play literally ever again. Tepper and company know this, they know what is needed to elevate a franchise, and they know a franchise QB is building block #1. If you do not have that guy, you are going to keep rebuilding until you do, while the players you spend first round picks on walk out the door. 

 

[BurnNChinn]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Knew you were

We've got some folks who absolutely don't want to hear anything other than that what they want is gonna happen. And hey, maybe it will, but taking it as a guarantee is setting yourself up for disappointment.

All u have said from the start is this trade wasn’t going to happen and if the least little chance it does it would not be here. But keep on keeping on!

Edited February 17, 2021 by BurnNChinn

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

All u have said from the start is this trade wasn’t going to happen and if the least little chance he does it would not be here. But keep on keeping on!

I don't believe it will.

I do however acknowledge that it could.

That's not exactly a complicated position.

Here's the fun part though: I could spend all of my time saying "yes it's going to happen" and talking up even the slightest possibility whenever someone mentions anything.

Would you like to guess how much impact that would have on what ultimately does happen?

I'll give you a hint...

[Jesse]

There’s no doubt either Deshaun gets either traded or sits out. There have been reports by national level insiders that have stated he won’t play for the Texans ever again. 
 

I wonder if this topic was brought up in any interviews during our GM search

[MHS831]

FWIW, there is similar chatter amongst Chicago fans--but that is because every trade rumor involves a large market team--they are writing for clicks.

[*FreeFua*]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't believe it will.

I do however acknowledge that it could.

That's not exactly a complicated position.

Here's the fun part though: I could spend all of my time saying "yes it's going to happen" and talking up even the slightest possibility whenever someone mentions anything.

Would you like to guess how much impact that would have on what ultimately does happen?

I'll give you a hint...

So instead you literally spend all of your time trying to convince others it’s not going to happen? Guess how much impact that ultimately has on what happens?

At the end of the day, the Panthers are going to be aggressive. That much should’ve been made obvious to everyone when they were willing to part with their 1st rounder this year for Stafford. They will do everything in their power to land Watson BUT there are other teams with top 10 picks that can put together better packages than we can. 

[Matthias]

I haven't read through this whole thread, but I'm seeing quite a few posts in favor of trading CMC.  This surprises me.  Shoot for me, the whole appeal of Watson being here in this offense goes away without CMC being here also.  I know running backs are a dime a dozen, but dag, this is CMC we are talking about here.  This ain't no scrub.  We still haven't seen him at his best.

This is also kind of funny to me personally because before we gave CMC his contract a year ago or so, I wasn't against trading him for I believe draft picks.  Yet now that we paid him like a QB, I expect big results from this dude as a Panther.  

Edited February 17, 2021 by Matthias

[cookinbrak]

I saw one the other day, it also must be true.

Jets get Russell Wilson

Houston gets Darnold and 3 1st rd picks

SF gets Watson

Seattle gets Garafalo, Joey Bosa, and a 1st rd pick

[The Lobo]

8 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

FWIW, there is similar chatter amongst Chicago fans--but that is because every trade rumor involves a large market team--they are writing for clicks.

Bears fans think they are getting every player in a trade or FA period. It’s wild 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

So instead you literally spend all of your time trying to convince others it’s not going to happen? Guess how much impact that ultimately has on what happens?

At the end of the day, the Panthers are going to be aggressive. That much should’ve been made obvious to everyone when they were willing to part with their 1st rounder this year for Stafford. They will do everything in their power to land Watson BUT there are other teams with top 10 picks that can put together better packages than we can. 

Believe it or not, I don't actually view the football discussions I have on here as a mission with an objective.

It's literally just football talk.

If you take it a little more seriously than I do, well... 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Matthias said:

I haven't read through this whole thread, but I'm seeing quite a few posts in favor of trading CMC.  This surprises me.  Shoot for me, the whole appeal of Watson being here in this offense goes away without CMC being here also.  I know running back are a dime a dozen, but dag, this is CMC we are talking about here.  This ain't no scrub.  We still haven't seen him at his best.

I'd prefer it be for three 1sts straight up, but all the talk has been that the Texans wants picks and a player(s). If that's the case, I'd rather it be CMC than someone like Burns simply due to positional value. I'd rather it be CMC than someone like Chinn simply due to the reality that Chinn still has three years left on a cheap rookie contract. I'd rather it be CMC than someone like Moore again due to positional value. What I will say though is that if CMC is part of the deal then IMO re-signing Samuel becomes borderline critical. Samuel filled in for CMC in a lot of ways last year.

[*FreeFua*]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Believe it or not, I don't actually view the football discussions I have on here as a mission with an objective.

It's literally just football talk.

If you take it a little more seriously than I do, well... 

Okey dokey