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Possibly the craziest draft story you might read

Mr. Scot

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15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If there wasn't a Trevor Lawrence available Wilson would probably be the #1 overall pick, but teams aren't just looking at a player's ceiling they're also looking at the floor. IMO, Lawrence's floor is significantly higher. It's difficult to imagine Lawrence being a complete bust with his physical tools, consistency, and level of competition. Wilson has very intriguing physical tools, but he also has some injury history and hasn't played against top competition. It's a lot easier to envision Wilson being a bust than Lawrence and I say that as a guy who is high as a giraffe's ass on Wilson.

I can see the talent everyone else see but i just don’t think he is built to last in the nfl . But if kyler can do it he can . I just don’t know i don’t see it . He gotta get in the right system of course they all do but more so for him than others . 

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I’m not advocating for this individual at all but how can Mac Jones get beat up on cause he plays with potential nfl players and that supposedly is the only reason he looks as good as he does but Lawrence doesn’t it ain’t like Trevor is playing with chopped liver at Clemson. 
they all have potential to bust or not 🤷‍♂️

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4 minutes ago, Cuttinedge said:

I’m not advocating for this individual at all but how can Mac Jones get beat up on cause he plays with potential nfl players and that supposedly is the only reason he looks as good as he does but Lawrence doesn’t it ain’t like Trevor is playing with chopped liver at Clemson. 
they all have potential to bust or not 🤷‍♂️

Take it a step further - why does no-one criticise Lance for playing on, what is essentially, a P5 team in the FCS?

Watch his tape - guys are running WIIIIIIIIIIIDE open all over the shop. 

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1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

Take it a step further - why does no-one criticise Lance for playing on, what is essentially, a P5 team in the FCS?

Watch his tape - guys are running WIIIIIIIIIIIDE open all over the shop. 

I agree it’s  basically like he’s a grownup playing against his kids little league team. Watching some of his highlights of him running over 200 lb linebackers doesn’t enthuse me at all.
He tries that in the nfl and he’s out of the league faster than Johnny manziel. 

He has the greatest bust potential I think. He could turn out to be amazing but I think he’s at least 2years away.

He just haven’t played against competition like fields and Lawrence have.  
and the speed of the nfl game could have his head spinning for years if thrown into the fire too soon 

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4 hours ago, BrizzMachete said:

11 tds and 9 picks in the c-USA is playing at a high level since when ? He had only one good year and that was this year then came up small against the best competition he faced against costal . I’m not buying it just don’t see it . He got a nice arm tho 

If you re-watch the game, Wilson did not come up small, everyone else in BYU did. Wilson was throwing dimes his receivers were dropping, his line wasn't blocking, one of his receivers ran backwards 20 yards, his RB fumbled, and his defense couldn't keep Coastal's O off the field. 

Wilson marched the team down the field with less than a minute left, threw a strike on the best option on the last play and came up a yard short. Wilson looked fine all game. 

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3 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

If you re-watch the game, Wilson did not come up small, everyone else in BYU did. Wilson was throwing dimes his receivers were dropping, his line wasn't blocking, one of his receivers ran backwards 20 yards, his RB fumbled, and his defense couldn't keep Coastal's O off the field. 

Wilson marched the team down the field with less than a minute left, threw a strike on the best option on the last play and came up a yard short. Wilson looked fine all game. 

If he is who they say he is then he came up small . Stop the excuses he ain’t do enough . Just like mahomes in the super bowl n Rodgers in the afc championship . When it’s time to step up , you gotta step up . It was plays to be made n they weren’t made . 

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5 hours ago, BrizzMachete said:

If he is who they say he is then he came up small . Stop the excuses he ain’t do enough . Just like mahomes in the super bowl n Rodgers in the afc championship . When it’s time to step up , you gotta step up . It was plays to be made n they weren’t made . 

He made the plays available though...

I mean your example of Mahomes coming up short in the Super Bowl is a terrible example too. Mahomes was doing everything he could, his supporting cast didn't do jack. Receivers couldn't catch after he scrambled for 20 yards behind a line anchored by Mike Remmers. Mahomes literally threw a dime parallel to the ground that hit a receiver in the head near the endzone. 

Seriously, go the watch BYU/Coastal game again. Game script didn't allow him to throw again until midway through the 4th quarter, due to poor defense and coaches wanting to eat up clock by running (and fumbling) and even then his receivers did him no favors dropping great passes and literally running backwards 15-20 yards on a play. Complete drive killers. 

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11 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Take it a step further - why does no-one criticise Lance for playing on, what is essentially, a P5 team in the FCS?

Watch his tape - guys are running WIIIIIIIIIIIDE open all over the shop. 

Because people are basing everything on wishful thinking. They aren't critically analyzing or being honest about any of it.

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12 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Not the craziest thing I've heard or even close. Lawrence is surrounded by NFL players. It's possible he's slightly overrated given people assume he will be great.

People say this because he’s on Clemson’s roster and don’t actually look into his offensive personnel. 
 

This year on the offensive line he had one linemen who will be drafted this year. Also, MAYBE one more lineman who will be drafted in the NFL in the future. This is why Clemson lost like they did against Ohio State. Clemson Oline is straight garbage. This coming from a Clemson fan.

Clemson has absolutely no TE on offense. Definitely not going to the NFL.

Clemson also had two of its 5-star WRs injured all year. He had two WRs that will POSSIBLY be drafted. Amari Rodgers is a guarantee, but he’s probably a 3rd-5th rounder. Powell MIGHT get drafted. 
 

His best weapon was obviously ETN. 
 

Sure, he has some NFL talent around him, but not much. Especially when you compare him to who he had versus who Fields and Jones were surrounded by. Both Fields and Mac were surrounded by a ton of NFL weapons and lineman. 
 

Not saying Trevor didn’t have a decent supporting cast, but to insinuate that his greatness is because of his supporting cast is lazy. He did a lot more with a lot less versus a Fields and a Jones. 

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15 hours ago, BrizzMachete said:

11 tds and 9 picks in the c-USA is playing at a high level since when ? He had only one good year and that was this year then came up small against the best competition he faced against costal . I’m not buying it just don’t see it . He got a nice arm tho 

I didnt watch the CC game but looking at the stats of just one game is a tough way to judge a QB. If you just look at the stats from the Super Bowl you could say Mahomes choked in the biggest game. 0 TDs, 2 INTs and a 53 Rating. But he was under constant pressure and receivers were dropping balls. Im not advocating for or against Wilson just saying

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