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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

We've got some people wanting it to happen with regard to Watson.

What I'd point out there are two things:

1) You never want the guy with the least amount of knowledge in the room to be the one dictating the decisions.

2) If it starts with Watson, highly unlikely it stops there.

That would indeed prove the rule that the worst thing you can ever do to anyone is give them exactly what they want.

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4 hours ago, Waldo said:

Or you have the complete opposite in Seattle where ownership is a ghost and the lack of any pressure has allowed the staff to put it on cruise control and stagnate while they coast on Wilson's production.

Best option is ownership that is hands off micro managing but still let's the staff know to produce or else. 

Tepper doesn't know anything meaningful about football. Either he hired well or he will fail.

Just bc owners don’t speak to the media doesn’t mean they don’t evaluate their coaches and other employees. 

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1 hour ago, Panthers8969 said:

Just bc owners don’t speak to the media doesn’t mean they don’t evaluate their coaches and other employees. 

The ownership in Seattle is reported to be way hands off. It was on PFT the other day and I have heard those rumors for some time.

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1 hour ago, pantherj said:

If I were a former hedge fund manager who crushed I don't know how many businesses, then you can bet if buy a football team I'm going to interfere and dictate what I want. If I owned the Panthers then you can rest assured we would have started Grier last season and Teddy would not be on the roster. If I spent billions on buying the Panthers then I'm going to interfere. Hell that's the best part of owning the team.

Using that logic, Daniel Snyder should be a great owner too.

The ability to make loads of money doesn't equal football knowledge anymore than it means you know how to ride a horse or drive a tank.

Yes, as the owner of the team he can make it his personal plaything if he wants to. That is, if he's okay with the product on the field being dog sh-t.

If he actually wants it to be good, then he should hand it over to the people who know what they're doing.

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Using that logic, Daniel Snyder should be a great owner too.

The ability to make loads of money doesn't equal football knowledge anymore than it means you know how to ride a horse or drive a tank.

Yes, as the owner of the team he can make it his personal plaything if he wants to. That is, if he's okay with the product on the field being dog sh-t.

If he actually wants it to be good, then he should hand it over to the people who know what they're doing.

He tried that for a couple of years and I think he is tired of it, the only thing he has told the current staff is get a QB. I am pretty sure when he was interviewing GM candidates he was asking what would they do to get us a real QB.

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Using that logic, Daniel Snyder should be a great owner too.

The ability to make loads of money doesn't equal football knowledge anymore than it means you know how to ride a horse or drive a tank.

Yes, as the owner of the team he can make it his personal plaything if he wants to. That is, if he's okay with the product on the field being dog sh-t.

If he actually wants it to be good, then he should hand it over to the people who know what they're doing.

Jerry Jones says, "Hi, there!"

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I think its laughable that anyone tries to say that Tepper is involved more than he should be. 

If you think any franchise owner has no say on the QB that leads their team, then you are a fool. 

Our football guys are handling things, and Tepper has expressed his desires. Damn an owner wanting to win. Damn him to hell!!!

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Owner- spends 2.3 billion on a team

Fans- "He better not involve himself at ALL!!"

 

I want my owner to at least care about the product, but not be obsessed with parts they have no knowledge in. Tepper saved the panthers AND kept them in carolina. Honeymoon is over with many moves- cam BS, stealing super fans seats, firing long term workers, pitting nc vs sc, keeping herniay(and calling him the best, bloody hell), etc etc. He at least admitted about his learning curve. It takes time to be a NFL owner, far as success. Start good, rocky couple years, looks on the upswing. 

 

He continues to pour money and resources into the team. He spend no time buying and installing a bubble(Jerry refused). Gave Rhule(whom i had big questions) the richest deal for a 1st year NFL coach, along with co-signing on hiring 25 coaches. Panthers have maybe the largest coaching group in the NFL. Hired all sort of science, nutrition, lifting, wellness experts to the already huge staff. Building a 200 acre super football complex that does help the locals, Richardson would have N-E-V-E-R done that. 

 

Ive gone form 8 happy to 3 upset, now about 5 neutral.  

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3 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

Three losing seasons in a row 

looks to be setting up for a fourth and that sure seems like potential of failure to me 

not sure how I feel about him and not sure it matters but if he wants to build that new stadium, and people to keep throwing dollars at his franchise, he best stop talking about ‘the process’ and start producing 

 

Hence him pinning his ears back and demand the best QB out there. He's had enough of the process.

Let's not forget we're talking about a guy who bought his old manager's house specifically to knock it down and build a bigger better one. The Panthers of old is being given the same treatment...and that's his right.

After all, we previously had one of the few owners who actually played in the league. That "football knowledge" led to some bonehead hires and NO consecutive winning seasons in 25 years. 

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Is he making every pick on draft night?  If yes, you might have a problem, even though that is his prerogative.

Is he heavily involved on spending considerable resources on a potential franchise QB? That’s probably fairly normal

 

 

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2 hours ago, Waldo said:

The ownership in Seattle is reported to be way hands off. It was on PFT the other day and I have heard those rumors for some time.

The Seahawks are now run by Paul Allen’s sister. She inherited the team. 

By all accounts she isn’t a huge sports fan despite owning the Seahawks and trailblazers.

She basically uses those teams to fuel her charity foundation.

We’ll see how things go when Russell isn’t there anymore. The Seahawks sucked for a long time.

Paul was pretty hands off too.. btw. It always sounded like he preferred basketball.

 

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25 minutes ago, Tbe said:

The Seahawks are now run by Paul Allen’s sister. She inherited the team. 

By all accounts she isn’t a huge sports fan despite owning the Seahawks and trailblazers.

She basically uses those teams to fuel her charity foundation.

We’ll see how things go when Russell isn’t there anymore. The Seahawks sucked for a long time.

Paul was pretty hands off too.. btw. It always sounded like he preferred basketball.

 

Yup. As long as they are not losing, I don't see why anything will change until Rus is gone. It's crazy to think they are trying to trade him, yeah his ask is dumb but he is also the one keeping the team relevant as far as roster goes. 

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