Chris Simms “no way the panthers draft Lance at 8”

[joemac]

Chris Simms also has Zach Wilson ranked higher than Trevor Lawrence.

[Ricky Spanish]

Ultimately we don't know until draft day how this will all shake out. Every year there are surprises so I am looking forward to it. 

[Mr. Scot]

Related: Lance has apparently advised teams that he won't be running at his pro day.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Related: Lance has apparently advised teams that he won't be running at his pro day.

This is a HUGE red flag. The guy ran a 4.92 in HS. I don't think he's anywhere near as fast as most people think he is. I'm not sure his running ability translates to the NFL. If he could run sub-4.7 he'd be running IMO.

[shaqattaq]

41 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Lance is a 2nd rounder, but Mac Jones is a high 1st? This is laughable...

3:43 in, he calls Lance a "second round prick" lol.

[CanePantherHornet]

The truth is after Wilson and Lawrence, everyone has significant problems. You've just got to choose which ones you think are more fixable. 

[hepcat]

23 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Honestly he's the toughest son of a bitch ever for finishing that game.

this is true he almost died. doesn't impact if he's good at scouting QBs tho although he is more tolerable to listen to than his dad

[PootieNunu]

20 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is a HUGE red flag. The guy ran a 4.92 in HS. I don't think he's anywhere near as fast as most people think he is. I'm not sure his running ability translates to the NFL. If he could run sub-4.7 he'd be running IMO.

According to Mike Garafolo at NFL.com he was clocked at 21.54 mph in a game against James Madison. He has been clocked three times at 20mph. It would be nice to see his 40 time though. Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson didnt run the 40 either. 

Lance later learned the GPS tracker he was wearing clocked him at 21.54 mph on that run, his fastest speed of the season. It would have ranked 12th in the NFL last season among ball-carriers and tops among quarterbacks

Edited March 9, 2021 by PootieNunu

[Mage]

I'm not saying I want Jones at #8, but having him over Lance is not nearly as outlandish as some of you are making it.  Jones mechanically is so far ahead of Lance it isn't even funny.  Lance has a higher upside but I'd argue Jones' floor is a lot higher than Lance's.

With Lance, you truly just don't even know what you are getting over a very athletic QB.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Mage said:

I'm not saying I want Jones at #8, but having him over Lance is not nearly as outlandish as some of you are making it.  Jones mechanically is so far ahead of Lance it isn't even funny.  Lance has a higher upside but I'd argue Jones' floor is a lot higher than Lance's.

With Lance, you truly just don't even know what you are getting over a very athletic QB.

Even those who advocate drafting Lance generally agree that he's gonna need a lot of reps to be an NFL quarterback.

[CRA]

I don't think the Panthers draft Lance at 8. 

Lance requires more time than I think the Panthers are looking for in a QB.  Plus, he requires a Lance built scheme.   Which doesn't seem like what the Panthers want to do. 

I think Lance would make sense for a team like Atlanta.  A team forced to start another QB and isn't looking to turn it over to a rookie any time soon.  

[CRA]

12 minutes ago, CanePantherHornet said:

The truth is after Wilson and Lawrence, everyone has significant problems. You've just got to choose which ones you think are more fixable. 

I'd limit that to just Lawrence.  

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I don't think the Panthers draft Lance at 8. 

Lance requires more time than I think the Panthers are looking for in a QB.  Plus, he requires a Lance built scheme.   Which doesn't seem like what the Panthers want to do. 

I think Lance would make sense for a team like Atlanta.  A team forced to start another QB and isn't looking to turn it over to a rookie any time soon.  

Lance or no Lance, I also doubt you're going to see the Panthers building a system around a quarterback again.

It's more likely they just acquire someone they believe can run what they have.

[CRA]

26 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is a HUGE red flag. The guy ran a 4.92 in HS. I don't think he's anywhere near as fast as most people think he is. I'm not sure his running ability translates to the NFL. If he could run sub-4.7 he'd be running IMO.

Running is like 50% of his game.....and he isn't Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson.   That's the Lance problem.  Running around vs weak competition and not actually being a dominant runner IMO.