"I'll be shocked if it's not Mac Jones to 49ers."

[BrianS]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Both ATL and Det have qb's on the books for 2 more years.  It would be insanely stupid to draft a qb in the top 10 and essentially bench him for 2 seasons especially considering Ryan is playing well and Goff was the #1 pick and probably just needs different coaching,

That's not relevant at all.

In the case of ATL, they have a very old QB on the books, and a very expensive QB at that.  Draft Trey Lance, give Matt Ryan a year to teach and then cut.  Poof.  Trey Lance gets the time he needs and Atlanta get the QB they will need within the next couple years.

For Detroit, it's harder to pinpoint.  Yes, they have Goff, but do they believe in him?  I'm not sure they do.  As a Panthers fan, I certainly *hope* they do, but there are a lot of question marks around Goff.  Once again, same rule applies.  They can have their current QB teach for a year or even two, and then cut ties.  Fields as a regional player or Lance as a developmental player would go down well in the Motor City.

[KSpan]

Brings me back to my original question though - who were they so concerned about taking Jones before the 12th pick?

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, BrianS said:

That's not relevant at all.

In the case of ATL, they have a very old QB on the books, and a very expensive QB at that.  Draft Trey Lance, give Matt Ryan a year to teach and then cut.  Poof.  Trey Lance gets the time he needs and Atlanta get the QB they will need within the next couple years.

For Detroit, it's harder to pinpoint.  Yes, they have Goff, but do they believe in him?  I'm not sure they do.  As a Panthers fan, I certainly *hope* they do, but there are a lot of question marks around Goff.  Once again, same rule applies.  They can have their current QB teach for a year or even two, and then cut ties.  Fields as a regional player or Lance as a developmental player would go down well in the Motor City.

Not relevant?  Say what?  They cannot just cut Ryan next year.  Look at his cap hit.  It doesnt work like that.   By reworking his deal they essentially are making one more run with him and Julio and I would bet dollars to donuts they either trade out or go best defensive player.  No way they go qb and sit him for 2 years picking at 4.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, KSpan said:

Brings me back to my original question though - who were they so concerned about taking Jones before the 12th pick?

Daniel Jerimah talks about this a bit in the new podcast.   basically says they didnt trust jones to get past Carolina. 

https://theathletic.com/podcast/211-the-athletic-football-show/?episode=114

 

[Basbear]

Until Roger says " WIth the 3rd pick SF 49ers select ........... Mac Jones"..........I just can not believe this. 

This will replace the biggest reach for a QB/player since Daniel Jones. 

[PandaMan]

39 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

They should, but they are sending out QB vibes.  I really do not get it--the #4 QB in this draft is not worth the #4 pick, and they have many other needs and a serviceable QB.  I am going to make a longshot prediction and say the take Chase WR or Sewell T

Yeah, that's my worst case scenario.  Falcons drafting a QB at 4 and he ends up owning us for a decade, while we're stuck in QB purgatory.  I honestly think Ryan has a lot left in the tank, but with the new coach/GM it's hard to tell what they're thinking.  I still think they go defense, but no one really knows anything.  These top 10 picks are going to be intriguing

[Verge]

1 hour ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

 

So....Verge's inside man is Chris Simms?

No, my moms uncles dads wifes brother in law knows Phill Simms 

[Verge]

When you know, you know. 

[beo]

1 minute ago, Verge said:

No, my moms uncles dads wifes brother in law knows Phill Simms 

Hmmm.. sounds like something Phil Simms would say.

[Verge]

Here is the fun part. No matter if SF had traded up or not, Mac Jones was going in the top 5. 

[TheRumGone]

57 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Brings me back to my original question though - who were they so concerned about taking Jones before the 12th pick?

Us. Which is fuging scary.

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, Verge said:

Here is the fun part. No matter if SF had traded up or not, Mac Jones was going in the top 5. 

Who was the other team?

[Verge]

Just now, Basbear said:

Who was the other team?

Multiple.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Verge said:

Multiple.

So the fan and media view of Jones is not widely shared by the actual NFL talent evaluators?