Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

How much of the Jets performance was really on Darnold?


SBBlue
 Share

Recommended Posts

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Jets flat out sucked. We'll find out how much of it was on Darnold this season when he takes the field for us surrounded by better weapons with a better OC calling the shots.

I was surprised that they even sucked at punting.

  • Pie 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, BigTruth said:

The problem with the Jets involves a  conspiracy theory.  The New York Jets hired a guy by the name of Mike Macagnan.  Mike Macagnan should  have never had the  job and the stories  you hear now makes  it clear he was a "different" kind of guy.  How did he get the job- Charley Casserly was hired by the Jets to hire Mike Macagnan.  Yes this is bizarre and there is no rationale explanation. Macagnan couldn't draft so the team simply had no talent.  That  said- Darnold  was part of the problem- he shouldn't have been drafted at 3- Allan and Jackson should have been rated higher and were better  options.  Realistically- look at the year's  since- QBs like Darnold are not drafted that highly anymore.

Funny that some projections suggest that Darnold would have been the second QB drafted if he came out this year. That is ahead of Wilson who replaced him. Darnold was drafted at 21 and was the youngest QB drafted in 2018 and the youngest QB starter for the Jets. He started 1 year in high school and 2 at USC so those saying he really doesn't have much starting experience and lots of upside are on solid ground.

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, BigTruth said:

The problem with the Jets involves a  conspiracy theory.  The New York Jets hired a guy by the name of Mike Macagnan.  Mike Macagnan should  have never had the  job and the stories  you hear now makes  it clear he was a "different" kind of guy.  How did he get the job- Charley Casserly was hired by the Jets to hire Mike Macagnan.  Yes this is bizarre and there is no rationale explanation. Macagnan couldn't draft so the team simply had no talent.  That  said- Darnold  was part of the problem- he shouldn't have been drafted at 3- Allan and Jackson should have been rated higher and were better  options.  Realistically- look at the year's  since- QBs like Darnold are not drafted that highly anymore.

It’s hard to find another Teddy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, BigTruth said:

The problem with the Jets involves a  conspiracy theory.  The New York Jets hired a guy by the name of Mike Macagnan.  Mike Macagnan should  have never had the  job and the stories  you hear now makes  it clear he was a "different" kind of guy.  How did he get the job- Charley Casserly was hired by the Jets to hire Mike Macagnan.  Yes this is bizarre and there is no rationale explanation. Macagnan couldn't draft so the team simply had no talent.  That  said- Darnold  was part of the problem- he shouldn't have been drafted at 3- Allan and Jackson should have been rated higher and were better  options.  Realistically- look at the year's  since- QBs like Darnold are not drafted that highly anymore.

Still mad Darnold took Teddy's job?

South Park Jobs GIF

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Somewhere between a little bit of the suckage and most of the suckage. Glad he's in Carolina but dude has a whole lot of work to do.

The more I look up what happened, its impossiple to stay MOST of the suckage.  Darnold didn't punt, kick-off, return kick-offs or play defense.

  • Pie 2
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, SBBlue said:


The Jets were 2-11 last season, getting blown out in 7 games.  I was wondering how much of the blame is on Darnold... so I did a little stat digging.  

The 2020 Jets offensive line struggled.
⦁     Darnold was pressured on 42.1% of his dropbacks, which was the most in the NFL.
⦁    The Jet Oline allowed pressure in 2.5 seconds or less on 28% of their dropbacks — the worst rate in the NFL.
⦁    The Jets averaged just 1.1 yards per carry before contact per rushing attempt in 2020 (30th). 
⦁    For what its worth, PFF Offensive line rank:29 
⦁    The line ranked near the bottom of the league in 2018 and 2019 as well. In fact, at one point in 2018, the Jets, literally, had difficulty snapping the ball.  They had to call Ryan Kalil out of retirement in 2019 for $8.4 million to play seven games. 
    
The 2020 Jets Receivers struggled.
⦁    Darnold experienced the 10th highest dropped pass rate in the league.
⦁    The Jets had 386 receiving yards from RBs (30th). Adam Gase didn't care to pass to RBs, as the Jets ranked 27th with 73 targets to RBs. 

⦁    They didn't block well either.  The Jets had a 54.8 run blocking grade from WRs and TEs (25th)
⦁    PFF ranked the Jets wide receiver group 31st

The 2020 Jets Running Backs struggled
⦁    Le’Veon Bel was a disappointment in New York. He rushed for 863 yards and three touchdowns in 17 games before being released midseason in 2020.  Bell averaged 3.2 yards per carry -- the worst in Jets franchise history (>200 attempts)  He did score four touchdowns though.

⦁    Overall, the running attack was never good as the Jets averaged 94 yards rushing per game in three seasons with Darnold.

The Jets 2020 Special Teams struggled.
⦁    Averaged 37.2 net yards per punt (30th) (I thought they would at least be good at punts, but no.)
⦁    Kickoff Return  Avg 19.78 yard (28th)
⦁    Kickoff Coverage Avg Return yards 24.81 (25th)

The Jets 2020 Defense struggled.
⦁    94 pressures from edge rushers (29th)
⦁    8.1 yards per target allowed by LBs (26th)
⦁    The Jets allowed the most receiving yards to tight ends (1,105) and the eighth-most receiving yards to running backs (673). 
⦁    Pass Defense allowed 275.6 Yards a game (28th)
⦁    3rd Down Conversion Rank 24th 
⦁    PFF  Secondary Rank  25th 

The Jets coaching struggled.
⦁    In Miami, Gase went 23-25 and his offense averaged 19.8 points per game 
⦁    In 2020, Gase's Jets offense  averaged 15.2 points a game  (32nd).

Fantastic research and post. Really puts things in perspective. 

Sam isn't immune from blame, but he was really put in an epically hellish situation...a true clusterfug. He never had a chance to succeed.

  • Pie 3
  • Beer 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Jets flat out sucked. We'll find out how much of it was on Darnold this season when he takes the field for us surrounded by better weapons with a better OC calling the shots.

I still say Brady has is work cut out for him. Fix Darnald and he probably will get a HC job next year as a QB guru.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Same. I would prefer a MNF game earlier in the season. As if more likely has some significance in case things go south this season. If we perform well enough we could even get another game forced to a Sunday night spot later in the season. 
    • Wanted to jump into this thread. Although I do not post anymore I do look in as there are a few old friends around. Loved hearing some of the names you mentioned.  Another  oldie is NanceUSMC.  He is the one who got me here from the old Observer forum.  Good guy and smart football guy. I have learned a lot from a lot of good Huddlers over the years, Over time. we have sadly lost a few who left this earth too soon.  Anyone who know of someone, it would be nice to try to make a list.  One of the more recent, CosmoGirl,  was someone that kind of hit hard.  Life sucks sometimes. Some of the best times were when we had our own tailgate and could meet up in person.  I think it made us better. Several dedicated volunteers, lead by LiverMush, started setting things up in the wee hours of each gameday morning.  Don't know all those regulars but I remember JakeFlake was one.  For you newbies...each game,  a Huddler (or a group) sponsored the food for each tailgate.  Eating was free but a donation was asked for.  At the end of the year those donations were used to buy bicycles for Toys for Tots.  Over the years Huddlers bought a lot of new bikes for kids for Christmas.  (I am guessing a couple of hundred each year.)  We had a good time getting together, got to make friends in person, and then got to feel like you were doing something good. It was truly a community. I got to meet Dan Morgan at one of our tailgates...he brought pizza from his restaurant.  How many of you remember that?  Glad the restaurant did not make it....lol. Not only have people changed, and come and gone.....but the entire nature and purpose has changed. Nothing lasts forever and we move on but we still like to think about good times. Same reason we take pictures. Want to ask a question I have not seen anyone else mention......who remembers    "The Couch" ?  We have argued, laughed, lived the ups and downs of football and dealt with a little real life along the way.  A thanks to  the Mods who keep this going.  I am sure they sacrifice a lot of their time out of love for the forum and the Panthers. Take care my friends and be well.  I will close with my new favorite quote which I think is greatly needed in these difficult times.        
    • My top-5 JAGS: 1. Tommy Tremble: May not ever be top-tier, but has been solid and you never doubt the effort. 2. Cade Mays: Not bad for a 6th rounder. Hated to see him go. 3. Brady Christensen: One of the most versatile backup OLs in the NFL. Hopefully we re-sign him. 4. Trevis Gipson: Quietly was really solid depth last season. Glad we brought him back. 5. Brycen Tremayne: Has been solid depth at WR, flashing at times last year.
×
×
  • Create New...