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BR's list of most overpaid players on every team


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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2945591-every-nfl-teams-most-overpaid-player-entering-2021-season

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Carolina Panthers: LT Cameron Erving

The Contract: Two years, $10 million with $8 million guaranteed

An argument could be made for Carolina Panthers running back Christian McCaffrey here, strictly because big second contracts for running backs rarely pan out. However, McCaffrey is arguably the NFL's best dual-threat tailback when healthy.

Instead, we'll go with journeyman offensive lineman Cameron Erving, who expects to be the starter at left tackle this season.

A two-year, $10 million deal isn't a lot for a starting left tackle, but it is a lot for a player who has struggled to find a home and a position in the NFL. Erving, a first-round pick back in 2015, is now on his fourth team and third position after previously playing center and guard.

Erving has never played 80 percent of the offensive snaps in a season and finished 2020 on injured reserve. He hasn't shown the longevity or reliability to justify the $8 million guaranteed on his current deal.

With $5.8 million in dead money remaining on Erving's contract after this season, Carolina will essentially have to let him play it out.

 

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Buffalo Bills: DT Star Lotulelei

The Contract: Three years, $18.6 million with $7 million guaranteed

In and of itself, Star Lotulelei's contract isn't excessive. The seven-year veteran is earning just over $6 million annually and has only $7 million in guarantees on his deal.

Where Lotulelei starts to appear overpaid, though, is when his salary is compared to his role.

In his two seasons with the Buffalo Bills, Lotulelei has strictly been a rotational player. He has played fewer than 50 percent of the defensive snaps in each campaign and has rarely provided impact plays.

Between 2018 and 2019, Lotulelei produced only 36 total tackles, two sacks, seven quarterback pressures and two passes defended. After that underwhelming production—and after opting out of the 2020 season—Lotulelei is set to carry a cap hit of $7.6 million in 2021.

Fortunately, the Bills aren't tied to Lotulelei beyond the 2022 season. While he's set to carry a cap hit of $9 million in 2023, Lotulelei will have no dead money left on his contract.

 

 

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This article from Cat Crave talks about Shaq:

https://catcrave.com/2021/07/10/carolina-panthers-players-hit-ground-running-2021-camp/

 

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Shaq Thompson – Carolina Panthers OLB
Shaq Thompson was probably nervously awaiting his fate with the Carolina Panthers this offseason after a disappointing 2020 overall.

The former first-round pick did go over 100 tackles for the second straight year. But his production wasn’t up to the required standard and especially considering the Washington product’s high hopes of becoming a true leader on defense following the shock retirement of Luke Kuechly.

Thompson needs a solid presence alongside him on the interior. That isn’t up for debate anymore after what we saw last time out.

The Panthers opted to restructure his deal rather than cut ties entirely despite the bumper pay rise coming Thompson’s way. So this ensures he’ll be around for the next two seasons at least.

However, the outside linebacker would be wise not to get complacent.

Thompson has to prove himself all over again in 2021 and now the Panthers acquired Denzel Perryman from the Los Angeles Chargers in free agency to man the interior, there won’t be any more excuses providing the recent acquisition suffers no more problems through injury.

Nobody will be more aware of this than Thompson.

This isn’t his first rodeo and he is one of the few remaining players from Carolina’s memorable 2015 Super Bowl appearance. But another campaign of inconsistencies could see the Panthers look in a different direction next spring.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

If we cut him before 2022, we save $25M in cap space over 2022 and 2023. He’s not worth that new money.

There should be no question that Shaq needs to go before we even think about losing Moton, DJ, Burns, etc.

I am coming around to your using the franchise tag on Moton in 2022 as well. Gives you another draft and time to see if Christensen, Moore and Brown can actually start at some point. If not, roll up the Brinks truck and don’t use the tag again.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather get Moton locked up long-term, I'm just saying that franchise tag this year and again next year is a viable option.

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1 hour ago, Icege said:

Oh look, another thread where folks start chirping that Shaq isn't good before trying to pretend that they're only criticizing his contract.

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He's a decent starting LB. Nothing more, nothing less. He's paid like an All-Pro and that's the problem. No one would be complaining about Shaq and his contract if his contract was reflective of his play.

 

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3 hours ago, Captain Morgan said:

surprised Cam got it and not Shaq.  Growing more concerned about LT by the day.

Some things never change.  New year, the same glaring weakness on the blindside.  This was the draft to fix that and we kept trading back to acquire extra picks.  Great, so we ended up with 11 picks and a QB who may or may not be shell shocked form his stint with the Jets.  I'm pretty sure Darnold would have felt better with solid LT protection over second/third string DTs, a 360 pound guard and...for crying out loud, a freaking long snapper.  I'll take quality over quantity, especially in this case.

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21 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's a decent starting LB. Nothing more, nothing less. He's paid like an All-Pro and that's the problem. No one would be complaining about Shaq and his contract if his contract was reflective of his play.

 

Yep

he wasn’t great with Luke and Thomas playing beside him

bad contract and a second RD pick picked in late first.   

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