Postgame thoughts. Preseason game 2

[Rags]

Just now, Panthers8969 said:

If danrold starts of slow we’ll all know why 

I'm gonna keep pounding the "correlation =/= causation" drums here as there are a myriad of reasons a team can start off slow, happens all the time around the league, but go off

[bigdog10]

Defense is going to be fun to watch this year. 
 

Offense is going to have some moments but is going to be very inconsistent. 
 

Joey Slye is a huge liability. 
 

our back up QB situation and oline situation is among the bottom five in the league. 

[Panthers8969]

3 minutes ago, Rags said:

I'm gonna keep pounding the "correlation =/= causation" drums here as there are a myriad of reasons a team can start off slow, happens all the time around the league, but go off

Sure. I agree correlation doesn’t equal causation. You’re also an idiot if you don’t think Sam not playing in preseason would contribute to his slow start. 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

Defense came out awesome. We are fast and aggressive. As Zod pointed out in another thread, Brown and Christensen are still showing they belong. Marshall is going to be a stud. I hope that knee holds up for a long time cause he’s a real talent 

[NYPantherFan]

20 minutes ago, Panthers8969 said:

Darnold played? I must’ve missed it. Mahomes has gotten 20x the playing time this preseason. Wonder why that is. When in nfl history has a coach gotten a new qb and not played him in the preseason. If danrold starts of slow we’ll all know why 

Mahomes is getting 50-60 reps against another defense in joint practices the last two weeks. I have no issues with the 1st team not playing more because of those practices. If they weren't having joint practices, I'd be concerned why they aren't out there getting more than one series through 2 games.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

So uh.

Am I the only one not worried about the game calls in a preseason game where winning is the least important aspect?

[Tr3ach]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

Darnold had like 4 seconds staring down Robby for his one completed pass, hardly worth anything evaluation wise

He wasnt staring down Robby.  There were two receivers running two different depths in that area.  Watch it again, there is an underneath route he was looking at too.

[Tr3ach]

53 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

Not good enough.  Looking at both weeks so far, our red zone issues do not seem resolved.  I'm starting to question if it's Joe Brady.  Slye has to go asap.

You've got to remember they dont game plan or scheme for these games at all.  They are going to run base vanilla plays.  They aren't going to show many of their plays in the preseason.  Especially their redzone plays. 

Edited August 22, 2021 by Tr3ach
Needed to add something.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

Just now, Tr3ach said:

You've got to remember they dont game plan or scheme for these games at all.  They are going to run base vanilla plays.  They aren't going to show many of their plays in the preseason.

You mean they scale down the play calling due to having a large amount of people on the team that can't be expected to all learn the playbook, and the plays called are more about trying to evaluate players on the team than to actually win a game?

2008 Lions.  2017 Browns.

Both played to win their preseason games.  4-0 in preseason.  Went 0-16 in regular season.

[ClawOn]

Effing hell people. Darnold threw two passes... drilled the 1st. Rapidly worked through the progressions on the 2nd. Nothing there. Threw it away. It was total pro. Go ahead and keep hating.  

Edited August 22, 2021 by ClawOn

[Tr3ach]

Just now, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

You mean they scale down the play calling due to having a large amount of people on the team that can't be expected to all learn the playbook, and the plays called are more about trying to evaluate players on the team than to actually win a game?

2008 Lions.  2017 Browns.

Both played to win their preseason games.  4-0 in preseason.  Went 0-16 in regular season.

Yes there has never been a lot of correlation between teams and their preseason records and regular season records that I can remember.   Some great teams have looked terrible in the preseason and vice versa.  It's not really a great thing to make knee jerk reactions on.

[CRA]

11 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

He wasnt staring down Robby.  There were two receivers running two different depths in that area.  Watch it again, there is an underneath route he was looking at too.

Replay was a closeup of Darnold and his eyes.  He was locked on from the snap.  

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

12 minutes ago, CRA said:

Replay was a closeup of Darnold and his eyes.  He was locked on from the snap.  

I am just fortunate that pro-bowl/all pro CB Marcus Peters who had lined up across from Anderson didn't notice this.  And was apparently thrown off by the stare down.

[Seltzer]

42 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

He wasnt staring down Robby.  There were two receivers running two different depths in that area.  Watch it again, there is an underneath route he was looking at too.

Exactly. And Darnold make a great play by keeping his footwork and base on point and waiting in the pocket until the deeper route that Robby ran came open.

He did the opposite of just taking the quick easy checkdown