Panthers are trading LB Denzel Perryman to the Las Vegas Raiders

[kungfoodude]

31 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

These guys are clowns. All that drama for a guy who practiced like twice and got beat out of a starting role. There are much better reasons to question rhule and fitterers moves. This isn’t one of them.

Agreed. Much ado about nothing. 

And his mush mouthed explanation of his source describing a nonsensical exchange between a player and Rhule was nothing. 

Similarly from the poster's description of him being a "dictator" isn't this literally how about half the coaches in the NFL are described? That isn't an isolated thing. 

[Mr. Scot]

33 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

I've never heard of him. I admittedly didn't watch as much NFL football in 2020 as I did in previous years. 

In all honesty, I'm for signing or trading for anyone that can help the team. If you believe McGovern can do it, and his cost is reasonable, I'd say go for it.

For me, I just love the speed and length of Smith. He's almost a Kam Chancellor type of talent if used properly due to his measurables. With Chinn and Smith you'd almost have a Thomas/Chancellor dynamic. However we would be in a better position on the boundary with Horn than Seattle was with Sherman, in my opinion.

Of course neither option will happen. And I don't believe that Snow is a Bradley or the other DC (forgot his name).

The word on McGovern is that the Cowboys view him as a starting quality guard but they have too many people ahead of him.

[frankw]

6 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

I hate sounding like a broken record but all anybody who covers this team on social media or radio does is complain and create drama about everything.

That's what happens when losing becomes the norm and all fans have to talk about is the draft or the potential of next season. Yes some of it is aggravating but you can't blame the fans of the media for the product on the field.

Edited August 26, 2021 by frankw

[Moo Daeng]

8 minutes ago, frankw said:

That's what happens when losing becomes the norm and all fans have to talk about is the draft or the potential of next season. Yes some of it is aggravating but you can't blame the fans of the media for the product on the field.

I'm not blaming them for the product on the field. I'm blaming them for their reactionary tactics.

If there is anything to report the default mode it to spin it to the negative to rile up the reponses.

Edited August 26, 2021 by Moo Daeng

[Mr. Scot]

55 minutes ago, CanePantherHornet said:

It's probably BS but who knows

I'd say there's a pretty good chance

Used to be the bullsh-t "I've got a source" stories came mostly from Guy With A Website. Anymore it's Guy With A Twitter or Guy With A YouTube Channel.

Still bullsh-t of course, just on a different medium.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, frankw said:

That's what happens when losing becomes the norm and all fans have to talk about is the draft or the potential of next season. Yes some of it is aggravating but you can't blame the fans of the media for the product on the field.

Losing was the norm under the old braintrust.

The current one hasn't even been in place long enough to have a "norm" yet.

[frankw]

6 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

I'm not blaming them for the product on the field. I'm blaming them for their reactionary tactics.

If there is anything to report the default mode it to spin it to the negative to rile up the reponses.

Agreed on the nature of social media which obviously thrives on negativity. But we just see more of it because it has been years since the team has been relevant for winning anything of significance. The Hornets social media pages aren't any better and they haven't been to two championships like the Panthers on top of losing the franchise once already.

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Losing was the norm under the old braintrust.

The current one hasn't even been in place long enough to have a "norm" yet.

Valid. But with all sports teams there is a honeymoon period and the one for this regime will officially end with the '21 season. If Darnold is a success the tide will turn and there will be a much needed boost of positivity. If not well things will start heating up like any other sports franchise.

[OldhamA]

2 hours ago, KSpan said:

Again, I'm not making definitive statements. The difference with FA though and particularly the guys signed is that there is already extensive film on them. Expectations can be reasonably set and thus far they're right on par with those performance-based expectations, which were fairly low.

Thus far based on one pre-season drive?

Ok.

[KSpan]

15 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Thus far based on one pre-season drive?

Ok.

Erving's been nicked throughout camp and Elflein's been unremarkable/unnoticed so yes, inclusive of that and camp in its entirety. This isn't complicated. No one is making a definitive statement but they both have years of performance to measure against and thus far are what they appeared to be.

[kungfoodude]

50 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Erving's been nicked throughout camp and Elflein's been unremarkable/unnoticed so yes, inclusive of that and camp in its entirety. This isn't complicated. No one is making a definitive statement but they both have years of performance to measure against and thus far are what they appeared to be.

Yeah, it would be different if they were out there crushing it in the preseason and there was some dramatic difference we were seeing. That hasn't been the case. When you have sucked for years, the onus is on you to prove you don't suck, not for everyone else to assume that you figured it out. 

Sort of like Greg Little. After just one season it was pretty obvious was the situation was but we still had people holding out hope all that "potential" was going to be realized. Gotta show up and prove that poo.

[Basbear]

17 hours ago, Dragoon11 said:

Do we have room this season to IDK... sign a good LT?

Im afraid not, given there are only about 15 real LT, 10 OT trying hard, and 7 RT larping as LT. Its rare to have a true LT, better odds for a good QB than good LT. 

16 hours ago, trueblade said:

 

Fitts more of a college guy. I think with Dan Morgan coming in as our pro guy, next year we will do better with FA.

Im not ready to call this FA class, my first reaction was very poor, but Im not form the future. About the only thing I liked was perryman and low salary mid-level players.... Arnold reports keep bring hope to save it, along solid play form DL play for Jones/Fox/Reddick along the line. If ERV&ELF just play average I will be amazed. No lie, Im still shocked his first "big" targets where ERV&ELF. 

It is a good point about Dan helping the pro side form the panthers. 

[1of10Charnatives]

There was once a player in MLB who was traded for himself. He was part of a trade that involved a player to be named later (one of the many aspects of MLB that keeps me from never taking it seriously). He didn't work out with his new team so they shipped him back as the player to be named later. The Denzel Perryman saga with the Panthers reminds me of this.

[OldhamA]

5 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

There was once a player in MLB who was traded for himself. He was part of a trade that involved a player to be named later (one of the many aspects of MLB that keeps me from never taking it seriously). He didn't work out with his new team so they shipped him back as the player to be named later. The Denzel Perryman saga with the Panthers reminds me of this.

There's a film with Marco Scutaro (A's legend) called A Player to Be Named Later. He went on to have a decent career and was an afterthought in a trade somewhere down the line. Fun times.

[Dragoon11]

9 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Sure!  Do you one one lying around somewhere?

Yeah, I guess I see the point... it's about as hard as finding a "good" NFL QB. Maybe the word I should have used was "serviceable"... is that on our roster currently? (why did you have to do the whole reverse psychology on me damnit!?) lol

Edited August 26, 2021 by Dragoon11