Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Christensen and Brown "close to contributing"


Zod
 Share

Recommended Posts

11 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Sad thing is he was the best of the street walking guards at the time if I'm not mistaken.   Which says all you need to know about the FA pool. 

was he the best though?  could we not have waited and got a terrible guard later in free agency and just paid closer to the minimum?

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I almost started a thread to point our Brady only got 4 snaps last week against the Jets, but the Huddle has enough things to gnash teeth about.

Hoping for more soon.  And hoping it's not because of injuries, but because he's proven he's better.  I understand not wanting rookie OLs to get shell shocked, but I hope we put him in the fast lane to playing more soon.

  • Pie 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you can't find an OG or OT on the open market then you have to draft them. Plenty of OGs the last few years in the draft, the excuses just don't hold up there. Its completely self inflicted and unacceptable. LT has been a lot harder but we already passed one up this year. Your reap what you sow. Play the rookies and if they are not it keep drafting new options.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, stbugs said:

No. We signed him early. According to this list (pain to find the old list with where they signed) he was ranked 17th, but we jumped quickly. We didn’t wait to sign him or Erving. For a few million more there were some much better options. Heck even some older guys who would have been nice 1 year placeholders.

Forgot the list:

https://walterfootball.com/freeagents2021G.php

exactly

Not every position on your football team is going to have a great player, that's the point of the salary cap.

Not every free agent is going to be above average or even average.

The problem with these signings is we did early and we overpaid.

If you are patient you can find "cheaply".

 

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

was he the best though?  could we not have waited and got a terrible guard later in free agency and just paid closer to the minimum?

 

 

3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

No. We signed him early. According to this list (pain to find the old list with where they signed) he was ranked 17th, but we jumped quickly. We didn’t wait to sign him or Erving. For a few million more there were some much better options. Heck even some older guys who would have been nice 1 year placeholders.

Not sure why the jumpe6 on Eflin so early and I agree he wasn't worth signing.  Maybe because he can be a backup center?

Erving I get because he is a natural LT, albeit not one you sign long term. 

It appears the hope was to get some help in the draft, which they did accomplish.  Now it's just a matter of finding out if there's a competent starter among them.  The view from the cheap seats appears that they just might have gotten 2 from the draft.  That's a good start with Moton locked in. 

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, AU-panther said:

Not every position on your football team is going to have a great player, that's the point of the salary cap.

That's why it's so important to hit on your draft choices.   Young starters are CHEAP starters.  

 

I'd love to see Christensen and Brown get installed as starting Guards effective immediately.  

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

26 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Sad thing is he was the best of the street walking guards at the time if I'm not mistaken.   Which says all you need to know about the FA pool. 

He was not the best by a wide margin. We signed him anyway. Remember that was an initial flurry signing which was why a lot of the NFL pundits scratched their heads at the timing and contract(this goes for Erving too).

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

 

Not sure why the jumpe6 on Eflin so early and I agree he wasn't worth signing.  Maybe because he can be a backup center?

Erving I get because he is a natural LT, albeit not one you sign long term. 

It appears the hope was to get some help in the draft, which they did accomplish.  Now it's just a matter of finding out if there's a competent starter among them.  The view from the cheap seats appears that they just might have gotten 2 from the draft.  That's a good start with Moton locked in. 

I really thought they liked Elflein as a guard/back up center, and possible take over for Paradis next year.

Elflein was actually drafted pretty high as a center prospect.

As a pure guard the signing made no sense at all.

 

  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, AU-panther said:

I really thought they liked Elflein as a guard/back up center, and possible take over for Paradis next year.

Elflein was actually drafted pretty high as a center prospect.

As a pure guard the signing made no sense at all.

 

I thought he was picked up for this reason too, to give us flexibility and a potential future at center. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • If we pay Bryce like a franchise QB we're completely and utterly buttfuged.
    • In my view, the realistic expectation for this team to compete will start 2027.  At that time, I think we could be looking at the following (this is HIGHLY speculative):   QB:  You know, Bryce.  I am not a fan, but they don't ask me.  But there is reason for hope--and here it is.  Bryce will be entering his prime.  Since we are likely to pay him, there will be changes that I include throughout this exercise--I realistically speculate on what they are going to do with Bryce and then I realistically speculate on what means in terms of the cap and other positions. Bryce HAS IMPROVED.  The idea is that if you give him more weapons and protection, that will continue.  His career:   At this rate, if his growth continues, by 2027 we should expect nearly 30 TDs and about 12 Interceptions and a Rating of about 98.  His completion percentage should settle at 65-66% or so.  If that happens, you can win with it. The following stats demonstrate how the Panthers will be able to afford it (and re-sign Ickey) My guess is they will require about $60m per year. This is why rookies who can play are important.  It also helps us see the blueprint.  You may disagree, but this is the cruel realities of the salary cap. Robert Hunt:  Cut post June 1 and save $19m.  Who do you replace him with?  Ickey. Tershawn Wharton:  Cutting him saves nearly $15m.  We should all hope to see Aaron Hall (UDFA) make the roster and play well.  Regardless, this is a position we would likely have to address in the next draft. Trevin Moehrig:  Cutting Moehrig as the starting SS saves this team $16.5m.   Ransom will be on year 3 of a cheap rookie deal and should be more than ready to take the reins.  their styles are similar.  Furthermore, FS Wheatley (R, 4th round) will be starting. Taylor Moton:  So much depends on his knee, but I have an idea that he can play another 3 years.  extending him could save the team about $5m per year.  Cutting him outright would save the team about $21m. In the most drastic situation, we have to cut Moton and the other three players mentioned.   We would need (in all likelihood) a starting DT and RT.  It is possible that the DE would be addressed, but Wharton's production (so far) could be equaled by a rookie.  Look for a cut free agent and a 2027 draft pick here.  If you cut Moton, you save $21m, and that would be the only big hole to fill.  Having Ickey at RG gives you some depth at T, and Ickey could be the guy.  T could be pick in the 2027 draft (first round), fwiw.  It saves you $21m while costing you $5m, for example. We get younger, creating a core of Freeling, Hecht, and the RT first rounder in 2027) along with Ekownu (second contract in the $15m range, and Lewis, whose contract would be in the $16m range if not extended.)  The OL cuts (Hunt, Moton) would save $40m.  The OL would get younger and still solid with veterans at G.   By cutting Wharton (no brainer if his play stays the same) and Moehrig (good player--but we have Ransom on a rookie contract who would not be that much of a drop off--if any) in addition to Hunt and Moton, we would save over $70m in cap room. We would be able to give Bryce bag  and we would have enough to re-sign Ickey (if the knee is not too risky) to a Guard contract (probably at a discount, coming off that injury).  Furthermore, we could add a RT in the draft (or a RG if Ickey moves to RT) and that would be the only large hole to fill. Correct my logic if you see issues-- On defense, in addition to the aforementioned, Scott ($2m contract) is out, replaced by a 4th round rookie contract. CB Jackson's contract ($7.8m) expires and he is (possibly) replaced by a rookie contract.  At Edge, patrick Jones II's $10m contract expires and he is likely a reserve, and his role is absorbed by Phillips, Scourton, Princely, and possible an UDFA like Isaiah Smith or a 2027 draft pick.   These productive developmental players over the past 2 drafts will pay huge dividends.  On paper, I see the team getting much younger and possibly better while cutting nearly $100m and reallocating that money to get more production.          
    • If everything played out and that last thing happened, I probably just quit. 
×
×
  • Create New...