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PFF offensive line grades after week 2

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4 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

Just spend 90% of our draft capital on line his year. If tackle isn’t there in round 1 and we spend a first round pick on a guard or a center, so be it. Time for talent infusion. 

A lot of people think this may be a bit drastic. But, I definitely understand your point of view. With the exception of RT, we could literally draft the best offensive lineman at any position in the 1st round (especially in the interior as you mentioned) of the 2022 draft and have an immediate improvement on the O-line. 

I don't think this is the year to get cute by trading back to acquire more choices if you have a shot to get a blue chip interior lineman in the 1st (or early 2nd) round. Moton is under contract now with a solid deal. If we can get Christensen ready to start (at either LT or G), we could double dip on lineman early in the draft and have literally have 4 starters on rookie contracts for 3 consecutive seasons.

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To look at things from an optimists point of view, offensive lines oftentimes improve as the year goes on assuming that there isn't extensive shuffling due to injury. If this is the baseline and we do see improvement throughout the year then that the team may be in a decent place toward the end.

Now, I'm not saying to retain underperfomring players or that changes shouldn't be made if there is someone that may be better. I still don't understand the Erving and Elflein signings given who else was out there (Reiff was my target) and Elflein may well play himself out of a job. It will be worth watching in the coming weeks as competition gets better as well. 

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Regarding next year's draft, it has to be center and LT.  Much, MUCH harder spots to fill adequately than guard.  We have two young guards with Brown and Christensen that simply hasn't had the reps yet.  I know our guard play is right now is sorely lacking, but again, in the grand scheme of things, those are easier fixes.

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2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Regarding next year's draft, it has to be center and LT.  Much, MUCH harder spots to fill adequately than guard.  We have two young guards with Brown and Christensen that simply hasn't had the reps yet.  I know our guard play is right now is sorely lacking, but again, in the grand scheme of things, those are easier fixes.

Yea we all knew Kalil was a top 3 center in the NFL but dayum man since his departure...we'd take the injured version of Kalil over dis

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8 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

A lot of people think this may be a bit drastic. But, I definitely understand your point of view. With the exception of RT, we could literally draft the best offensive lineman at any position in the 1st round (especially in the interior as you mentioned) of the 2022 draft and have an immediate improvement on the O-line. 

I don't think this is the year to get cute by trading back to acquire more choices if you have a shot to get a blue chip interior lineman in the 1st (or early 2nd) round. Moton is under contract now with a solid deal. If we can get Christensen ready to start (at either LT or G), we could double dip on lineman early in the draft and have literally have 4 starters on rookie contracts for 3 consecutive seasons.

To have a chance at a 2nd round pick we would have to trade back, as the 2022 2nd is the current starting QB on our team. 

So I FULLY expect us to trade down a time or two in the 2022 draft in an attempt to replace the 2nd we traded. I wouldn't call that cute, I'd call it the smart thing to do. 

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20 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

Didn’t Elfein get hurt?

Yeah he was out in the first quarter.  He faced Tuttle and Roach  and they didn't do squat when he was in.  In fact, they had no qb hits or sacks the entire game.  Last week Elflein mostly battled Q Williams on an island by himself because Paradis was helping Daley all game.  QWillaims is rated higher and has better stats than our Derrick Brown.  So I guess Elflien will be our whipping boy since we can't complain about LT atm because Erving has been getting the job done.

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4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Regarding next year's draft, it has to be center and LT.  Much, MUCH harder spots to fill adequately than guard.  We have two young guards with Brown and Christensen that simply hasn't had the reps yet.  I know our guard play is right now is sorely lacking, but again, in the grand scheme of things, those are easier fixes.

In theory you are absolutely right. However, you know how the draft is in some years. Some classes have great lineman. Other years the talent isn't quite as good. I'd hate to take a LT (or center)out of desperation like we did with Little in the 2nd round a couple of years ago. I have a feeling we ain't gonna be drafting in the top 10 this year. The best LT's "could be gone" by the time we're on the clock. If a stud guard is on the board and he's better highest ranked remaining Center or LT, I'd be in favor of taking the guard...unless we had a more pressing need at another position.

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